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#1 Blank[3097]
Nothing personal, but if the game sucks (for me) I'm not going to say good game, cause it wasn't. I dunno, that's just my logic. Perhaps Omni didn't feel it was a good game....

Maybe I should start typing "g's" just for game=)

Blank



#2 [FLS]prozerran[3098]
HaHa Whoop you 'childed' him.

and....
I do believe there is a gap of skills. Just like Whoop kick my ass 80% of the time. =]

The more I played, the more I found how sucky I am, and how to improve.




#3 Whoop[3100]
All I can say is all games I have ever played and lost or won I have said GG unless the guy I was playing was a totaly prick. Sportmanship anyone?
#4 JSH[3103]
I guess something called blind luck is not allowed in games anymore.
#5 ronin~/randomflavor[3105]
hehe,
whoop i luv ya dude. the more i hear about you the worse i feel about beating on you. maybe i'm in for a good old whoopin. :] for sportsmanship, always say somethin, if you had a shitty game [my personal repertiore] then u say
"i sux"
if you win and had a shitty game :]
"i sux"
if you school the poor little incompetants
"i sux"
very simple :]
oh Fls u sux too. damn scv packin bastard :]

but everyone should play nice so we can all have a good time killing each other.

peace
ronin












#6 sydane[3106]
U rock man Whoop, u kick ass!!
Not to be rude, that guy suck a**!
Good Battle report!

#7 Helmintes[3108]
Hm.. you got the races wrong. In the first game, I was the toss and Omni was the Zerg. And when you dropped that goon on me, I had a dt and 2 dragoons. If you dropped those zealots, I doubt it would have been "gg." I didnt really like that map, and most people hate a map the first time they play it. It happens when people play the map I like, orbital death.

To tell you the truth, I have never known Omni to be rude or a jack-ass. He was always calm headed, the way you tell it makes him seem imature and a jerk. I'm pretty sure Omni didnt mean to be mean, but thats just a friend sticking up for another. I'm being honest here.

I wouldnt write battle reports just for the opportunity to make fun of, or insult another player. That itself is a jack-ass thing to do. Your opinion that he sucks and the fact that you stated that in your report is an unsportsmanlike thing to do, I thought you hated those types.

Oh well. From what I saw, you were a decent player. I enjoyed storming your probe line :D. Dont get the wrong idea of Omni, maybe later well have a friendly rematch on a map we pick.



#8 Whoop[3118]
Hey Hell I agree you're write I shoulda not posted this BR but again the way he acted was seriously rude. I'm the hand of justice :). <----- The truth is if he doesnt like getting a bad rap he shouldnt act the way he did. If he had said anyting to show remorse I'm the first person to shake hands and say no worries man we all act dumb.

Anyways ya you bastard u did storm my probes...heh I thought it was so nice I returned the favor. :)
#9 Blank[3128]
I still wouldn't say gg if it sucked=P Just g....

Blank
#10 shockwave[3132]
Hey Whoop, long time no see :-). Great to see you're still kicking butt on the Starcraft scene :-).

Anyway, if a player is rude to me, I usually resist rematching him and I just get outta there, despite usually having to ignore comments like "Chicken" and "You suck" and "You cheat" (or some subset of those :-) ). I figure that b.net is an open community with no selectivity, thus you're gonna be playing with people of all ages and backgrounds. For me, I just don't want to deal with a teenager (not to stereotype all rude players as teenagers, but that's just been my predominant experience) flaming me and making me lose sleep :-). I know you're a humble guy but it seems everytime we play together, one of us gets accused of cheating :-) (usually you, because I suck ;-) ).
#11 Omnipresent[3134]
After about an hour of thinking it over I definitely decided that you didn't cheat, as disgruntled ape backed you up, and that you just got a little lucky and I screwed up alot on my part. However, by posting this br WITHOUT my permission is being an asshole. I did this once to ralessi, and I apologize for it, but i DID NOT write the br with the intent to make fun of him or to hurt him in any way. This is a selfish act on your part and though I was going to apologize to you when I got on next, that is out of the question. Writing this is being an asshole and a jerk and I'm ashamed that you did it. Honestly, what the hell were you thinking? So much for you being cool. I don't know you very well, but I certainly no longer think highly of you at all. I hope youre happy.
#12 Omnipresent[3135]
Oh yeah, and for all the people who say I suck, I'll 1v1 any of you. I hope you guys can back up your words. Find me on bnet and play me or silence your opinion. I don't mean to be rude but I was pissed off the first game we played cuz i got ganged badly and I was seriously annoyed at how lucky whoop got. However, I realize I was wrong but none of you have the right to say I suck.

I repeat myself, 1v1 me or shut up. You have no right.
#13 JSH[3137]
Shockwave discovers battlereports.com. :)
#14 shockwave[3139]
JSH: I've known about battlereports.com and have been reading stuff here with much interest since its inception. I'd just so far felt that there was nothing that needed comment :-). This is a great site and a tribute to the whole Starcraft community. I always learn more about SC strats from reading BR's than from discussing stuff in theory (although the latter is still important in the overall understanding of the game). Wait let me put a link here from my forum :-b...
#15 shockwave[3140]
JSH: I've known about battlereports.com and have been reading stuff here with much interest since its inception. I'd just so far felt that there was nothing that needed comment :-). This is a great site and a tribute to the whole Starcraft community. I always learn more about SC strats from reading BR's than from discussing stuff in theory (although the latter is still important in the overall understanding of the game). Wait let me put a link here from my forum :-b...
#16 Omnipresent[3143]
I keep finding more things to say. For the record I DID NOT SAY WHOOP CHEATED. I said he looked extremely suspicious and hinted at it that game alot. Then disgruntled ape backed him up and seeing this I BACKED DOWN. I never went to anyone else and said he was a cheater of EVEN discussed the game with anyone else. Once again whoop, you exaggerate with only the intent to make me look bad. Me whining and being an asshole that game pales in comparison to this br u posted and almost anyone sensible would agree with me.
#17 Omnipresent[3144]
I keep finding more things to say. For the record I DID NOT SAY WHOOP CHEATED. I said he looked extremely suspicious and hinted at it that game alot. Then disgruntled ape backed him up and seeing this I BACKED DOWN. I never went to anyone else and said he was a cheater of EVEN discussed the game with anyone else. Once again whoop, you exaggerate with only the intent to make me look bad. Me whining and being an asshole that game pales in comparison to this br u posted and almost anyone sensible would agree with me.
#18 [3145]
Helm: <I>To tell you the truth, I have never known Omni to be rude or a jack-ass. He was always calm headed, the way you tell it makes him seem imature and a jerk.</I>
#19 Omnipresent[3146]
I admit helm I was rude and a jerk. I was angry how I was losing and I took it out on whoop. For that I am sorry and I was wrong. I was also wrong to assume he was a cheater even though he did get a few luck moves in. Basically he kicked my ass toss vs toss twice (i sux toss vs toss i dont know why), but this br is what I'm so angry about. It shouldn't be done and no one should write a br with the intention to flame someone, especially without the whole story. It's rude, its cheap, and its selfish. For this, I SHOULD be angry.
#20 Whoop[3148]
COOL. Dude I'm sorry I wrote up this BR and I'm glad you realize now you were wrong. Maybe we can get them to delete the whole dang thing since it sucks as BR goes anyways. Lets all be friends :)
#21 Helmintes[3149]
Hey, lets all be friends here. Omni is angry as he has a right to be. If someone wrote a br to simply point out that I suck, I would be angry too.

I also feel its stupid and immature to say omni sucks without playing him. If you feel you can kick his ass, then 1v1. I think it was funny how sydane and the other bunch were forming opinions without even seeing him play, I'd put my money on omni.

This is just a game, and if someone is acting stupid and rude towards you, forget about it. Its not worth your time to get angry. Its like road-rage, whats it gonna solve? Nothing. Its only gonna piss you off and make you bitter. Lets just forget about this. We all act like piss-heads from time to time. Its a frickin game.
#22 kakaru[3150]
Yo, hmm sounds like you kicked some butt whoop =). Sorry omni. Its good that you apologized. I would be pissed if i got schooled like that too =) but i mean you gotta be mature about stuff like that. I know its wrong but what goes around comes around man. It might have been a bit over the top, yes, but it got the job done. And I have seen your responses so I get the whole story now.

kakaru

p.s. omni, don't worry about it, internet "reputation" is not that big a deal, if its tarnished its not the end of the world.

p.p.s. whoop don't stereotype teenagers =). I am much more mature than many of the non-teenagers on bnet i am sure =).
#23 Blank[3159]
Maybe all us nohunters should have a pow-wow, holding hands and singing hymns=)

Kum-ba-ya... my lord.... Kum-ba-ya.... =)

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#24 [IceBerG][3178]
ROFL!!! Uh... now that we have all graduated from grade school, can we all kiss and make up? ;-) Whoop, maybe it was wrong to post this, but I definitly can see your post. If this ever happens in the future, people know it's an ongoing thing. I understand why you're pissed Omni, but are you one of those types of people who just can't drop something... there's like 50 posts above from you. ;-p Oh well... whoop whoop whoop... another ass beating at the hands of the whoopster!

C yas!!@!@!

*Cat fight noises* hehe

On the gg part... leaving w/o gg is usually done by a$$es. Usually I say, because this is obviously not the case here. The majority of the time I have had this happen is was pre-emted by, "You cheat!!". I have done it once or twice, but only after getting stuck with a REALLY horrible player and watching him play SIM CITY as I am continuously (sp) attacked.
#25 Mark4[3182]
I think that a battle report is like telling a story. If you lived the story, and when you tell it it's the truth from your point of view, you have every right to tell it. You don't need everyone's permission who was involved.
#26 Rychean[3199]
Since when do you have to have someone's permission to write a battle report? If you are playing a person who is known for writing battle reports then you should almost expect to see one pop up with your name in it sooner or later.

I will not condone what Whoop did, (writing this BR) but I will not chastise it either. I will simple say that the post and the subsequent comments were all very entertaining. So someone had some fun at your expense after kicking you around, does it really matter? Did any one get killed? Was there a law broken? Was there some sort of unwritten code of ethics breached? Maybe, but it is only a game people!!

On the "GG" I often fail to get a GG in before a person is eliminated or before I am eliminated. In this case the GGs should be exchanged in the channel or even go through the hassle of whispering an opponent or ally after a game.

Ry
#27 Coruscant[3200]
Its not asking for permission to write a br, people could care less if they were in one. Its writing in descriptive detail on how much that person sucks that should require permission. Thats a stupid thing to do.
#28 Mark4[3201]
Coruscant, people are responsible for thier own behavior. If you don't want a BR depicting you acting like a jackass, don't be one. Just accept that the SC community is a community, and word of your behavior gets around. Yeah, it sucks if you're a jerk and someone tells everyone you're a jerk. But it's not that persons fault your a jerk...
#29 fudge[3210]
lol good report there whoop, that was great.

in future i'll try to remember to always gg u. we don't bother everytime nemore, but i do w/ strangers =) [errr. u r not a stranger but i think i will ne way ;)]
#30 fudge[3212]
lol good report there whoop, that was great.

in future i'll try to remember to always gg u. we don't bother everytime nemore, but i do w/ strangers =) [errr. u r not a stranger but i think i will ne way ;)]
#31 Bob the Newt[3213]
Besides, if you ask someones permision to say they suck, I have this odd feeling your not gonna get it.
#32 Omnipresent[3214]
Well to those of you who said writing this br was all right, I'm sure none of you are perfect and all of you have had your bad days when you did something you regret. Does that mean that if I see you acting like a jack ass I should tell everyone in the world? Well if you say yes either you're lieing or you're a moron. Now which one is it?

Writing this br was wrong simply because he didn't even look into it or why I said what I said. He simply exaggerated and wrote a crappy br that was only entertaining because it made fun of me. It's all fun and games until something like this happens to you.

Oh and mark4 last time I checked being annoying in a game does not constitute a reprisal in this form. Whoop is not a judge and is therefore not capable of giving out any form of punishment. Saying I'm responsible for my own behavior is condoning this and saying that every time you act like a jack ass a br should be written about it to make fun of you. That, my friend, is wrong as hell, as everyone has their bad days.

Of course you don't need permission to write a br Rychean, and Of course you shouldn't write a br just to make fun of someone. This is obvious etiquette and me being a jack ass in a game is a lot different from being a jack ass in a br. They both are the same except one is before an audience. Anyone who condones this br is either immature or blind in someway. I promise not to judge which ;).
#33 Omnipresent[3215]
Oh and mark4 you barely even know me and have no Idea if I'm a jerk or not. Calling me one is being a jerk yourself so the term hypocrisy comes to mind. Next time think before you comment
#34 [FLS]prozerran[3218]
Omni: try to substitute the word "jerk" to any descriptive nouns such as "great player," "crappy player," "smart guy," "moron," etc... and you'll find mark4's statement is nothing but a general statement claiming that everyone has the right to write a BR and portray any player to be an "X" if he indeed behave like an "X".

Sorry for the symbolic term, but what do you expect from a Math and Computer Science Major? =P

And.... I still don't get why does anyone need any permission from another guy to write a BR between the two.
"<i>However, by posting this br WITHOUT my permission is being an asshole. </i>"
which is your original statement.
#35 [IceBerG][3219]
I understand you defending yourself Omni... I even though I will side with Whoop no matter, I have not made any decisions on who/what you are like. But as I mentioned earlier... just drop it. Let it blow over and all we be good once again. ;-)

BTW- I think Whoop has changed his name to "The Honorable One, Judge Whoopster"
#36 Blank[3220]
I don't hear anyone singing but me=P All of ya, Atheists=P

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#37 [FLS]prozerran[3224]
Blank: I can recall that song when I learned it at grade 5 or something like that. I think it was a Black folk song a century back or sth.

or how about the ever familiar "Joy to the World!" or the less common "Peace, oh child"
#38 colonel_mustard[3232]
ok.... kum-ba-ya, my lord, kum-ba-ya........... omni, i understand how you feel about this report, but i think that your response to this br had generated much more hostility towards you. the br was not really commented on until you reated harshly. just remember, this is not a flame, dont bite my head off.
#39 Mark4[3244]
FLS stated it better than I can in his post a few comments back. I didn't say that you were a jerk. I just said that if you act like a jerk, you can't complain when people say your a jerk. I think you just dont like the feeling that you can be held resposible for your actions. I say that if every time someone is a jerk they get a BR like this one written, it will encourage some common courtesy, which I'm all for. I bet you'll think a little harder before being offensive in the future. I know I will.
#40 Whoop[3270]
Dang imagine my suprise that I get 39 comments and only 2 are from me?

hehe
#41 JSH[3278]
Controversy = comments.
#42 [FLS]prozerran[3292]
Let's all give one more comment to Whoop so he'll break the record of 45 =P
#43 Ahscar[3301]
Well, whoop is a naturally talented writer, and this battle report is an A KICKASS report! And i'm writing this comment to help whoop with is goal of comments, and to add my dumb opinion. I think it was only a few weeks ago when a guy from nohunters.. i'm going to go ahead and say his name, NappaSpiritball or something to that nature.. was playing a 2on2 with helmintes against diogenes'sdog and myself. Well they were both zerg and went mad lings to take out my base.. which they did but dio had gotten mutes and bascailly won the game. Dio's mutes then triggered nappa to think that dio had cheated to get those mutes so fast, and with that assumption nappa disconnected as we were razing his base. This sets up my opinion.. i believe that a gg doesn't necessarily have to be given.. cause it is kinda your decision at the end of the game if you think if was any good. But to go as far as a disc would IMO be unsportsmanlike. And i don't think that omni really deserved some of the stuff that whoop wrote about him.

Ahscar
#44 Whoop[3322]
Well as the new reccord holder I accept the crown from Mark4 and proclaim myself the new comment king. I'd like to thank my parents, casue they gave me life. I'd like to thank the creators of BR.com for giving me a venue to display my comment gathering skillz. Most important, Id'd like to give special thanks to Omni for not only posting a zillion comments but for inspiring me to post this report.
#45 TerranTurtle[3359]
King of Comments?? Bah! Anyone could do that! Just write a BR as usual and add a dash of controversy (i.e., the one about the Chinese guy complaining about the American) Maybe I'll just write a BR and tack on an insulting comment for every single person I can think of who goes to nohunters or nwtr :p j/k, and nice work, Whoop. You the Man.
#46 [FLS]prozerran[3377]
I bet if I make a BR that make fun of Americans I'd get at least 100 comments! =P j/k

PS: Whoop, where is my bribe money for giving you more comments?
#47 Johnny_Vegas[3383]
Hey Whoop you are a comment whore! I hope I don't have to put a limit on the number of comments...
#48 -Flathead-[3397]
LOL!!!!!! This is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. To further add to Whoop's "comment-whore" BR, I would like to sum up the BR and the comments that ensued:

Whoop: Sheesh, what a lamer.
Omni: Waaaah waaaaah, I'm not a lamer!!! I'm not I'm not I'm not!!! You're mean Whoop
Whoop: Sorry I called you a lamer.
[Iceberg]: Whoop's not a mean person, quit saying he's mean.
Whoop: OK I'm mean but now there's nothing I can do about it.



LOL!!!!! Oh my god, I think I'm gonna split a seam. Oh, and Omni, you didn't make yerself look any better by responding with a very very caustic attitude. Made me feel like you actually ARE a lamer, and I don't even know you at all. Cut yer losses and give up, I'd say...
#49 -Flathead-[3398]
LOL!!!!!! This is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. To further add to Whoop's "comment-whore" BR, I would like to sum up the BR and the comments that ensued:

Whoop: Sheesh, what a lamer.
Omni: Waaaah waaaaah, I'm not a lamer!!! I'm not I'm not I'm not!!! You're mean Whoop
Whoop: Sorry I called you a lamer.
[Iceberg]: Whoop's not a mean person, quit saying he's mean.
Whoop: OK I'm mean but now there's nothing I can do about it.



LOL!!!!! Oh my god, I think I'm gonna split a seam. Oh, and Omni, you didn't make yerself look any better by responding with a very very caustic attitude. Made me feel like you actually ARE a lamer, and I don't even know you at all. Cut yer losses and give up, I'd say...
#50 kakaru[3410]
LOL flathead =) funny, juts adding comments to beat the chinese vs. america br thingie =)
#51 Sword[3464]
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#52 shockwave[3533]
Those of you who have played with/against me know that I'm sometimes a very unforgiving, arrogant player. I remember one game, I was allied with someone from NWTR, playing against two other NTWRs, who said that he was inexperienced at BW, so I thought "Great, newbie". I proceeded to ridicule him for building 3 early bunkers and even wrote my opponents (who knew him) to the effect of, "This guy obviously sucks, can you guys go easy on me?" Well, game progresses and, guess what, we lose the game . But who loses the game for us? I do. The loss was entirely my fault, and he showed himself to be a pretty good player except that I just didn't trust him because I thought he was a newbie. I apologized profusely to him afterward, I still feel what I was unforgivable but he was extremely kind and we even started playing together regularly after that.

Man, we can all be jerks sometimes, myself probably worse of all since I have a very competitive nature. A lot of my real life friends refuse to play RTSs with me because I'm not encouraging. And yes, sometimes I even accuse people of cheating when in fact I find out later that they're honest players.

Reputation is reputation, whether in game or in real life we make impressions on people and they have a right to act on them. But what really determines relationships is then not really the first impressions, but instead how maturely people give and handle (i.e. respond to) criticism. After all, we CONSTANTLY misinterpret what each other say or overreact or catch each other on bad days. That's human and it's unavoidable. What's more controllable is then how we resolve those situations. If a person slanders me, then I'll try to understand why he reacted in that way, apologize for my part in it, and also then maybe make himself go through some self-examination if I feel he had some part in the blame or acted inappropriately himself. And that's how relationships are built. It's very rare that you'll hear something like, "I thought Shockwave cheated, therefore I hate his guts forever", but you'll often hear in real life things to the effect of, "I thought Shockwave was rude at dinner. And then when I told him, he chewed me out and swore like a dog, therefore I hate his guts forever."

It goes both ways, though: Unless the offense was glaringly obvious (I dunno inthis situation whether it was, Whoop makes it black and white whereas Omni says he exaggerated the story), the offended would be gracious to leave some opening for reconciliation or consider that he might have misinterpreted. And the offender needs to be humble enough to admit that he was maybe at fault even while he seeks to justify his actions.

In any case, if I ever act like a jerk (like above), which has happened a lot and will continue to happen, please post a BR as punishment -- because I deserve it and it's very unlikely that there will have been an excusable reason behind it -- but please also accept my apologies when I respond in the comments section. Then we can all continue to be friends :-).


#53 [IceBerG][3559]
FLATHEAD, I NEVER SAID WHOOP WASN'T MEAN!!!!! ;-p

Nice comment btw.

And Shock.... hehe... lol... ever the debator(sp?). It took you 989767 paragraphs to say... "Can't we all just get along?" Hehe... as always Shock, very well stated.

C yas~!

Oh and Flathead... try not to beat around the bush next time. Tell us exactly how you feel. ROFL!



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