| #1 IcE-Inforcer[118402] |
| proxys.sj4.marketscore.com |
| 1st! Omg I rule... |
| #2 Adrenaling[118403] |
| CPE014100005949.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
| hi ice, no i rule |
| #3 IcE-Inforcer[118404] |
| proxy.ia4.marketscore.com |
Anyways... enough with the crap.
Well... here it is... again.
Thanx to IcE-Druid for spellchecking this for me, if there are any spelling mistakes bitch at him, not me (heheh getting rid of some bitchage*).
Now to go check if it all worked out fine :) |
| #4 adrenaling[118405] |
| CPE014100005949.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
| ultralisk rush, ask drefsab, i think hes got a 26 cavern ultra rush. me gots a nuke rush which failed in a battlereport. and the arbiters, i have no idea. =[. anyways, i liked this as always ice. =] |
| #5 IcE-Inforcer[118408] |
| proxy.ia4.marketscore.com |
Lol, adrenaling dude... you're superman! You read this entire thing in 2:39 seconds!?! Holy shit!
Btw no offense to your nuke rush br.
***CoUgH wHoRe*** |
| #6 IcE-Inforcer[118410] |
| proxy.or3.marketscore.com |
| Btw im the whore not you. |
| #7 Dragonsven[118413] |
| s9.dial1.pro.nac.net |
Way to be a comment whore, Ice. TT
-Sven |
| #8 adrenaling[118415] |
| CPE014100005949.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
| no ice, i was just claiming my spot so i could be SECOND! |
| #9 adrenaling[118417] |
| CPE014100005949.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
| actually, wait... |
| #10 adrenaling[118418] |
| CPE014100005949.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
| bah, i dunno |
| #11 adrenaling[118421] |
| CPE014100005949.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
| btw, those quiz questions BAFFLED me. ;) |
| #12 adrenaling[118422] |
| CPE014100005949.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
btw, for the REAL report, i want to see some GOOD games. =]
yes, im a fucking comment whore. |
| #13 Decay[118428] |
| 206.10.109.45 |
Nice.... report, or whatever, but what unit is not destroyed by a nuke?(dont laugh at me for being dumb)
~Decay |
| #14 Psychochild[118429] |
| 177.orlando-13rh15rt.fl.dial-access.att.net |
| .......Pretty pictures. |
#15  [118435] |
| St-Catherines-ppp112446.sympatico.ca |
nice pictures, good writing and overall great potential somewhat wasted on a list of stupid strats to use against newbs ;). Been there, done that with Dref and such.
Anyway, decent. 7ish. |
| #16 titans-thesoby[118437] |
| d-207-5-252-62.s-way.com |
| GJ but i was looking for a report!!! |
| #17 Ender[118438] |
| 24-168-119-41.si.rr.com |
1) Yes
2) i think its ultras (correct if i'm wrong)
3) No |
| #18 Kjdjy[118439] |
| CPE00104c10a42b.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
1) EMP Cant remove energy from comsat or shield battery
2) Pretty sure Ultralisks, being the heaviest ground unit..
3) No. |
| #19 [118440] |
| St-Catherines-ppp112446.sympatico.ca |
| #18, watch more Boxer reps plz. |
| #20 [118441] |
| St-Catherines-ppp112446.sympatico.ca |
btw ( sorry about spamming )
1) Yes, it will.
2) Battlecruiser
3) No... |
| #21 Weirdo From Space[118442] |
| adsl-63-202-180-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net |
Give me a nice big rater by my name. That's all
1)
2)
3)no
1/3 ain't bad these days, you know... at least not in America... |
| #22 Redemption6[118443] |
| cache-1.sbo.ma.webcache.rcn.net |
1) Not Sure
2) I believe BC and full armor upgraded ultra?
3) No.......................... |
| #23 [118444] |
| dsl1-53.tcq.net |
| nuke = 500 damage = bc survives |
| #24 dr spork[118450] |
| Toronto-HSE-ppp3693379.sympatico.ca |
i agree with dag..
nice style, writing etc..
but wasted..
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| #25 Moebius[G][118451] |
| client-151-200-161-80.bellatlantic.net |
| Dag, what do you mean by nice writing? This was copy/paste strats =[ |
| #26 DeltaFlyer13[118453] |
| h24-76-29-7.vw.shawcable.net |
| Whoa that movie intro thing was awsome.... |
| #27 DeltaFlyer13[118455] |
| h24-76-29-7.vw.shawcable.net |
You can't say BC for the second one 'cause he was talking about ground units.
1: No
2: Scarabs
3: No
The only way you can count Bc's as ground units is if you use StarDraft and modified them to be ground troops. |
| #28 DeltaFlyer13[118456] |
| h24-76-29-7.vw.shawcable.net |
Well....I THINK scarabs for number 2.
They DO have HP and shields....but I think you can't kill them since you can't click on them.... |
| #29 (...BlaZe...)[118457] |
| internett2proxy.fellesdata.no |
| i didnt read, but nice format, pictures were ok ;o) |
| #30 vincible[118462] |
| roam155-218.student.harvard.edu |
| Scarabs have HP and shields? Where did you find this out? And does it ever matter? I've never seen a scarab get killed or even get fired upon. |
| #31 vincible[118463] |
| roam155-218.student.harvard.edu |
As for the answer, what unit can survive a nuke? I bet it's a trick question.
The archon and the ultralisk can survive a direct hit from a nuke IF they're matrixed by an allied science vessel. I bet that's what he's thinking. |
| #32 vincible[118464] |
| roam155-218.student.harvard.edu |
| and of course the BC survives too, but it's an air unit so it doesn't count. |
| #33 gay lord focker[118465] |
| monn-01-084.dialup.netins.net |
a reaver shoots a scarab at a big bunch of tanks
Tank: Shit its a scarab!
Tank: Kill it kill it!
Then all the tanks fire at it jsut when the scarabs hits the tank |
| #34 Redemption6[118469] |
| cache-1.sbo.ma.webcache.rcn.net |
| I don't believe you can target a scarab, but anyone who uses the campaign editor knows that they have HP and shields. Yea i think a scarab would survive. I believe a BC has 400 health? Theres no way a nuke only deals 500 cuz 2 hits to a CC kills it and a CC has at least 1200? |
| #35 mick[118471] |
| 1Cust21.tnt8.bne1.da.uu.net |
| err btw, nice report |
| #36 [118472] |
| CPE00105cae268e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
Quiz: Will EMP drain a Comsat Station of its energy?
yes
Quiz: Is it possible to Recall enemy units?
no
Quiz: One unit can survive a Nuke. Which unit is it?
Ugh, what was it. the bc or the carrier....
Ill go with the Battle Cruiser, hope I'm right. |
| #37 Metamucil[118474] |
| CPE0048546d06e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
he just said unit
1) yes it will
2) bc fully upgraded
3) no u cant recall |
| #38 metis[118475] |
| webport-cl6-cache4.ilford.mdip.bt.net |
1. i dont think so, but i think emp can only be targeted at units.
2. battlecruiser will survive with the same number of hitpoints as it has armour. a nuke does 500 damage or 2/3 damage, so it will knock 1000 off a cc, allowing two consequtive nukes to kill it. no other unit will survive a direct nuke.
3. dont know, but wud be kinda cool, cud totally obliterate their army a bit at a time. |
| #39 GoV[118476] |
| CPE0080c6f147d4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
| Why bother watching boxer reps? He r gay. Massively. Gay. |
| #40 Sovereignty[118477] |
| 131.109.124.254 |
| It is the battlecruiser, upgrades or not. They have 500 life and 3(?) base armor, so 503 life, leaving 3 life after a direct nuke :) No other unit will survive one. You guys are digging way to deep with this d-matrix and scarab stuff. |
| #41 Moebius[G][118479] |
| eclipse.cntrvilhs.fcps.k12.va.us |
Answers:
1)Yes, the comsat is still powered by energy despite the fact that it is not an actual unit.
2)No, you can't even recall units of your allies. The only units that can be recalled are those directly under your control. But wouldn't it be great if we could recall your enemies MMF combo into a cluster of cannons and reavers?
3)The battlecruiser is the only unit in the game that can survive a nuke, BUT the battlecruiser must be at full health. After the nuke hits it the battlecruiser will be left with 1 HP, not much but it's still pretty good considering it was a fucking nuke. BTW a scarab is not considered a unit, it can not be clicked/controlled/destroyed.
Hope that leaves you guys with some insight. |
| #42 Moebius[G][118480] |
| eclipse.cntrvilhs.fcps.k12.va.us |
Damn, switch answers 2 and 3.
;( |
| #43 DarkRider[118481] |
| 198.134.2.2 |
"Any ground unit will die from the blast EXCEPT for one very special unit...
This strategy was mainly invented by the famous me, but I got a few things from Dragon lord (sc legacy).
Quiz: One unit can survive a Nuke. Which unit is it?"
The actual question is just what unit can survive-the statement above it is where the word ground is used.
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| #44 ZerG~LinG[118485] |
| p455-69.ppp.get2net.dk |
I think this was utterly boring :(
The fact that I read about some of this stuff didn't make it better. The interresting part of these strats is when you try them. I would love to hear your experiences with a nuke rush, but reading on how to make one is pretty dull.
If I was a rater, 5.5 |
| #45 QuothTheRaven[118496] |
| 180-30-189-66.wo.cpe.charter-ne.com |
| Good pictures, but you have no sense of color. Off blue and pink...that's about as ugly as it gets. |
| #46 cowboy_bebop[118499] |
| ool-182ea37a.dyn.optonline.net |
| actully more than just bc can survive a nuke theres ultra and d matrix ^^ |
| #47 DarkInferno_IV[118500] |
| host217-39-19-102.in-addr.btopenworld.com |
1: A comsat CAN be EMP'd. Very funny when someone is relying on CSat (no SVs) and you nuke them...
2: Many things can survive nukes:
a)BC
b)DMatrixed Archon
c)DMatrixed DArchon
d)DMatrixed Carrier
e)DMatrixed Ultralisk
f)Scarab
3: No, you cannot recall enemy units. |
| #48 Kjdjy[118502] |
| CPE00104c10a42b.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
I coulda sworn i read or heard somewhere EMP doesn't take energy from a ComSat or Shield Battery, but it would take the Shield from the Battery, of course... but, i think im wrong now. EMP prolly can take away energy from em..
And if you did read the Nuke bit, it says *all ground units will be killed by a nuke EXCEPT one special unit* which kind of implies its a ground unit, doesnt it? |
| #49 DMage[118506] |
| 12-218-6-135.client.mchsi.com |
| no |
| #50 IcE-Inforcer[118507] |
| proxys.sj3.marketscore.com |
Holy shit... all these comments...
Well here are the answers to the quiz.
EMP does drain comsat.
The only ground unit that can survive a Nuke is.......
ZEALOTS (full upgrades) if u dont believe me go try.
You cant recall enemy units.
#25: These were NOT copy paste. Except the parts in italic.
#46: Wtf? Pink? Its ok, my granpa cant see some colors either.
Thanx for all the feedback.
Thanx for trying out the quiz heheh.
I will report soon enough... but im out of ideas... help me out peeeepo! |
| #51 psychochild[118508] |
| 48.orlando-07-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net |
| I say somebody should do a WC3 guide instead of all of these starcraft ones. I'd love to see that. But for now, Back to WC2 ToD... |
| #52 DarkRider[118511] |
| 198.134.2.2 |
| I 2nd-more WAR3 reports |
| #53 bs[118515] |
| 1Cust60.tnt7.hou10.da.uu.net |
| Zealots don't survive a nuke, I tried it. If the Zealots are at ground zero of the nuke blast, they would die. |
| #54 ADRENALING[118518] |
| CPE014100005949.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
| ZEALOTS?!?! U GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!!!!! |
| #55 vincible[118519] |
| roam155-218.student.harvard.edu |
| Zealots? What are you smoking? Can I have some? |
| #56 adrenaling[118520] |
| CPE014100005949.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
| btw, i forgot to mention this WAY before, but i am ACTUALLY MENTIONED IN THIS REPORT! ...the negative way though... |
| #57 IcE-Inforcer[118522] |
| proxy.ia4.marketscore.com |
Ok, upgraded Zealots do survive nukes. Of all the small units in the game they have the most HP. Nukes do less damage to small units. A Nuke leaves Zealots with 4 HP. I know this because I actually got nuked, my army was the target. I failed to move em out of the way, but all my Zealots survived.
Btw I smoke. But I aint sharing nothin!
Just kidding I dont smoke.
And Adrenaling... I dont diss you or anything in this report... When u writing your next? You probably have the potential, you just need the tools (paint=gay). Just check out Zerg~Ling's new guide. And you dont have to buy everthing. I got all my tools 4 free (cracked versions etc).
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| #58 Zeal1590[118527] |
| spider-mtc-ta074.proxy.aol.com |
Pretty good report ^^
btw couldnt an someone just move around your statised units and wreck your base? insterad of waiting their like a fag? |
| #59 mick[118528] |
| 1Cust194.tnt8.bne1.da.uu.net |
| A zealot will die at Ground Zero of a nuke. |
| #60 [118529] |
| Ottawa-ppp3517233.sympatico.ca |
by the way, this report did not actually cover any real "strategies" as such. It merely covered some fundamental principles of starcraft so basic that most people in NoHunters learned them about 2 years ago. The Ultra rush is OBVIOUSLY a ridiculous strategy, and "What's an ultralisk?" is not something I want to go over at this point of time. The stuff about EMPs etc was equally annoying.
If you do something like this next time, plz cover real strats like Protoss VS Terran on Dire. Refer to some of Ling's and HC's brs for how to do this effectively.
I just felt I left that out in my initial comments. |
| #61 nrkizt[118530] |
| bb-203-125-19-13.singnet.com.sg |
You neglected an alternate use for statis that I've seen somewhere else before...
statis a few probes (or any other unit) at your ramp to block it off. helps vs mass cracklings or any other purely ground attack... nothing gets up the ramp... restasis when necessary...
Read somewhere else but have never tried this because it doesn't seem cost effective..... maybe when you have too much cash....
Nuke nothing (ie a corner) right before engaging in major battle. Other players will be too busy looking for red dot to psi storm, reload reavers, focus fire, etc |
| #62 Moebius[G][118531] |
| client-151-200-161-80.bellatlantic.net |
Ice, I hope you realize you are wrong about the zealots being able to survive the nuke. Nukes do either 500 damage or 2/3 damage depending which is great. Zealots maximum life is 160 damage, shield and HP, not including the armor. Since 500 is far greater then 2/3 the amoutn of 160 500 damage will be dealt to the zealots, killing them instantly.
However, I understand what you mean, and perhaps you are confused about this. Just because a unit is within range of getting hit of a nuke does not mean it takes full damage, the same as if it were dead center where the bomb landed. The nuke does less damage within a certain radius of itself, so my guess is that your zealots which survived this nuke were not close to the center blast, but more along the outside of the explosion.
Trust me, I've just tried it out. 3-3-3 upgraded zealots, set the red dot dead center of them, nuke drops, they are all killed. Tested and proven, the Starcraft way. |
| #63 Patton[118535] |
| spider-tl063.proxy.aol.com |
Okay, here's what I think:
1)Yes.
2)Only a BC can survive a nuke.(Most D-matrixed units can, duh. Extra 200hp...)
3)No, you can't recall enemy units. You can recall a team mate's units in a team game, but otherwise, it's impossible.
Zealots surviving a nuke? Pshaw. Maybe at the outer layer of the nuke's blast zone, but not at ground zero. Jeeze.
Oh ya, here's one for ya: If you're zerg, and get nuked, will units be protected to some degree by burrowing?
The answer is yes. Not at ground zero, but units actually won't take damage after a certain distance if they're burrowed. Try it. If you burrow a line of lings, then leave a line of lings above ground, the lings above ground lose more.
Yup.
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| #64 Decay[118537] |
| 206.10.109.50 |
#62, that would be a good use for stasis, but only if u have a lot of money. And, WTF!? Why the hell would you nuke a corner? Nuke the enemy. If they find it, its the same as if it hit a corner(no damage, not to mention they have to micro even more to kill the ghost, leaving u to own the real battle) and if they dont find it, you can do even more damage.
#64, what r u smoking? Under no circumstances can you recall any units except for your own. You CAN'T recall your allies units in "a team game" And how far away from the nuke were these lings? I think that lings die in a nuke, even if they r on the very outside of the blast radius(dunno about the burrow thing, maybe its protection) but even fully uped lings will die on the outside of a nuke.
I tried the zealot thing, and ice is right, but not about being right in the middle. Uped zealots will survive on the outside of the radius.
~Decay
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| #65 ZerG~LinG[118539] |
| p432-103.ppp.get2net.dk |
Who cares, who would nuke a zealot group anyways :P Remind me of that quote:
"Maybe you could nuke the ultralisk! - Hold still..."
Pshaw... |
| #66 IcE-Inforcer[118546] |
| 209.105.210.34 |
I guess when I got my ass nukes my Zealots were not at ground zero.
Btw, this wasn't entirely for pros... newbs canb learn from this as well. (whats an Ultralisk)
Thanx to Decay for trying it out and proving you infidels I was right... in a way. |
| #67 tercal[118555] |
| ool-4353591e.dyn.optonline.net |
| im pretty sure that zealots can survive nukes, but not if they are hit dead center....again though, who would bother? |
| #68 [118559] |
| Ottawa-ppp3517214.sympatico.ca |
| this reminds me of old starcraft.org conversations of yore. Ick. |
| #69 mick[118580] |
| 1Cust183.tnt10.bne1.da.uu.net |
| zealots can survive a nuke, but they have to be well outside GZ. |
| #70 DeltaFlyer13[118640] |
| h24-76-29-7.vw.shawcable.net |
VERY outside.
But the only ground unit that can survive a nuke is still....a Scarab.
As I said earlier. |
| #71 Decay[118646] |
| 206.10.109.61 |
A SCARAB IS NOT A UNIT! IF IT WERE, YOU COULD READ ABOUT ITS STATS IN THE SC MANUAL AND YOU COULD CONTROL IT AFTER IT IS LAUNCHED BY A REAVER. IF IT CANNOT BE ATTACKED, ITS NOT A UNIT! Sheesh.......
~Decay |
| #72 UltimateFire[118682] |
| spider-ntc-ta034.proxy.aol.com |
| Zealots die to nukes :(. BC's dont die, and Zealots survive Yamato with 1 hp, and D-Matrix adds 8 less armor than a Yamato, but I can't remember the exact number on either. |
| #73 UltimateFire[118683] |
| spider-ntc-ta034.proxy.aol.com |
Actually, it might be only 5 less...that would make sense if it was 255 and 260 likeI remember...
Hey, no one cares |
| #74 CattleBruiser[118824] |
| spider-wp031.proxy.aol.com |
| what a waste of a BR... |
| #75 Pro.Marine[119577] |
| mp-216-52-95.daxnet.no |
You are a fucking looser you suxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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