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#1 1st[69977]
TK147047.univie.teleweb.at
not going to read a BGH report
#2 A_BackStabber[69980]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
I guess you missed out then.
#3 willwinforfood[69981]
ool-18bd7836.dyn.optonline.net
good job sir. nice graphics and writing. the br was fairly long to. but this is going to get a better rating then my report so you suck =[ j/k.

-wwff

#4 {~Ascension~}[69983]
249.rochelle-park-01-02rs16rt.nj.dial-access.att.net
haha. this is funny.
#5 Gemini[69987]
sarc1a120.snip.net
Gosu back-stabbing skills there. Funny funnny funny.
#6 C|oud[69989]
d226-49-232.home.cgocable.net
I think those overlords have a urinary tract problem. Hmmmmm. tried a vet?
#7 gchucky[69991]
ool-18bd42ec.dyn.optonline.net
eh. bgh shouldn't be reported on, but the images look really nice. wee.
#8 hi[69994]
dyn-wien-209-94.dyn.columbia.edu
1st bgh report
#9 Casper...[69996]
on-tor-blr-a58-03-381.look.ca
Wow, you're so talented being able to backstab those newbies and all. GJ! Teach me brood wars k?
#10 Wangsonn[69997]
adsl-78-164-41.gsp.bellsouth.net
gw
#11 Somebody...[69998]
proxy1-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com
OH MAN!!! FUNNY FUNNY FUNNY!!! GOOD STUFF, VERY GOSU. ME LIKEY!!! GJ&GW

sby...

#12 WarLeaderJustin[70001]
spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com
KP is Korean Pride.

Good BR.

7.

-WLJ





#13 <font color=red>EVIL</font>Seiruu[70002]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
Hilarious!

Great Br!
Nice writing
detailed 'fights'
hilarious stuff =)

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#14 <img http://smilecwm.tripod.com/cwm/coo.gif>[70003]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
hm
#15 [LoR]-Punisher[70005]
202.156.0.2
KP is KayPo.Which means very busybody or nosy.
But anyway backstabbing sux...dun wish to view anymore reports on backstabbing.

6 because its on BGH and on backstabbing.


#16 [70007]
208.196.35.239
This was pathetically gay. Good God almighty. The brutality and lack of empathy towards your fellow humans is terrifying and a definite sign of the deterioration of our society. The flames of hell are rising to consume us all<i>!</i>

As for my rating. Start at 7 for nice pictures and decent writing.

Subtract 1 point for playing on BGH and 1 point for ruthlessly murdering your allies with no provocation.

5

Dref







#17 teck.lika.hore[70009]
JHU0024.RES.jhu.edu
Writing was ok, pictures looked nice...I'd give it a 5 or 6...but... let's see it was on bgh, which i assume u and your roommate play a lot (i mean you can't win if you have to freakin expand, geez). Oh yeah and u backstab. Let's see, backstabbing people and calling them newbies... BRs take skill but doing that takes TALENT. congrats *rolls eyes* Its too bad this is an actual BR or I'd beg someone to delete it. Seems like u have br skills but no SC/BW skills. go write short stories stop wasting people's time here and on bnet.

{insert witty signature here},
teck.lika.hore
#18 Blackadder[70011]
hvachovsky.i001.law.columbia.edu
Before you write another report that will get on my nerves learn this:
the past tense of quit is quit
the perfect tense of quit is quit

Examples:
I will quit starcraft.
I quit starcraft 2 days ago.
Many people have quit starcraft.

English is my third language and i know that, so should you.

Also if you are bored from starcraft stop playing BGH. Backstabbbing is not funny, it is sad. You generally ruin other peoples experience. You think you are so good challenge some good players on a real map. Then try your dmatrixed scv strat.

Congratulations!!! You are now a part of what makes battlenet suck.
#19 Eradicate~Me[70015]
spider-tk074.proxy.aol.com
those pics sucked, there were all these lil lines in em and it made my eyes hurt. as for the game, it sucked also, IT WAS ON BGH AND HOW MANY TIMES MUST THE RATERS SAY THAT BGH REPORTS MAKE THE REPORT SUCK?!?!
#20 Shepherd[70017]
res104a-013.rh.rit.edu
GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE! YOU HAVE NO PART OF BEING IN HERE, BACKSTABBER!!
#21 A_BackStabber[70030]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
Heh first of all, I agree with Dref's comment. It was brutal and in humane. But this is against BGH newbies so what goes?

Casp: No I can't teach you BW and neither can you. We are on similar level of skill.

rofl teck.lika.hore you are funny. Wait I mean you're a dumbass if you actually think that backstabbing newbies on BGH takes SKILLS. Perhaps you just need a good negoiation skills to turn your innocent partner to a backstabber, then backstab him at the end? Think about it yourself, this is not easy. This is not BW skills though, but this is a difficult psychological talent.

As for Blackadder, I do not doubt my skill level. I had played just about any good players in SC including few of the top players in the world, as you can name them. In NH/NWTR, I was considered among the level of yav/mark/ahs/HC/Whoop/... oh you name them. I don't like backstabbing by myself, but it is a lot of fun if you do it with your friends. Also, I AM indeed getting bored of starcraft.

Eradicate~Me: I think you aren't very smart. Read Breeze's recent 10, YRM's old reports, and many of their pictures were on this texture. You are a fool.

As a matter of fact, I found most response very funny because you guys don't know who I actually am. If you all know, you would be saying "OMG THIS IS GREAT HAHAHAHA!", you know, just like a lot of monkeys praising the one-eye man.

"RATERS SAT THAT BGH REPORTS MAKE THE REPORT SUCK" is wrong. There were several BGH reports which received a very high score. Take an example of [FLS]prozerran's 5 Way FFGay. Dref's 12 minute ultra rush. As for newbies beatdown and mocking, check out JSH's adventure in newbieland!
#22 [70032]
inehou-pxy04.compaq.com
Homosexual the worst part about it is that you posted it on br.com forum and shocks. Minus 2 points.

4

Fox
#23 A_BackStabber[70033]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
If I haven't posted there you won't see it!
#24 Forensic Snake[70042]
HNW0798.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
Awesome report...You are da best.
Report = 8
BGH = -2
Backstabbing = +3
Funny = +1

10/10

KP FOREVER!!!!!!!
#25 teck.lika.hore[70043]
JHU0024.RES.jhu.edu
Well I was sarcastic...bgh and/or backstabbing still sucks. And btw #22 is hilarious. go fox

Anyways...

I do, however AGREE with you in one aspect. From many occurences I've noted, if you were someone famous, or a friend of the raters, you might still get low scores on this BR but the comments from them would be joking instead of insulting, with some praise for being hilariously retarded and weird. I, however, am a nondiscriminating hater of suckage, so I think that the report itself is decent but the rest can take the monkey, turn it sideways...and stick that monkey up the one-eyed man's ass all over br.com!!!... oops sorry

{insert witty signature here},
teck.lika.hore

(i hope i'm not inadvertedly copying someone else's sig.)
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#26 [70045]
as530029.infocom.com
The brutal way that you backstabbed was what got to me. The guy was trying to help you out of the kindness of his heart because he thought you were being backstabbed. Then after he helped you destroy your former ally, you backstabbed him. I mean, this is the worst backstab I have ever seen on this site. You don't often see kindness on B.Net, but this guy was kind and did a good deed for you, and you turned around, stabbed a knife in his back, then twisted it. That <i>really</i> took away my enjoyment in reading this report. I'm serious when I say that it seemed very cruel and heartless to me, even if it was just a game.

I don't care who you are, if you were YRM or JV I'd say the same thing. Personally, the fact that you're linking this every where is kind of annoying because I think its not the kind of report I'd like to see representing this site to other people on the Internet. But that's just personal preference.

Cheers,
Dref
#27 WarLeaderJustin[70046]
63.113.115.15
So said the man who wrote about the Hack Killer.

<i>reffering to Drefsab's comment on #26.</i>

-WLJ
#28 GoaTZiLLa![70047]
64.108.91.188
im just curious, backstabber, what IS your regular bnet name or your akas?
#29 Napoleic[70049]
van1d10.dial.uniserve.ca
Hmm, actually I found this to be a pretty damn good report and I liked the way he colour coded all the units, instead of just names. Some of the dialogue was hilarious.

On the other hand, I whole-heartedly agree with Dref. Those actions are deplorable. Backstabbing, even "bgh newbies" is a sadistic and counter-productive practice. The thing is, most "bgh newbies" are just casual gamers trying to get something out of sc. They don't post at br.com, they aren't involved in the community, their just regular people having a good time. Sure we get bitter about it, but you can't really complain.

Furthermore, "bgh newbies" will never become anything more or better to us when they get backstabbed like that. Sure it's just a game, but going down like that can ruin your whole day.

Consider my own case. I was unable to get on the internet for 2 months, so when I finally got back I was frothing at the mouth to play sc. When I got onto bnet there was just the usual bgh fare but I was able to join a 2v2 hunters. Well noone else joined so the two people there just put on some comps and started, and I was too impatient to start playing sc again to leave. What do you know, I get backstabbed. The sad thing is, the enemy zerg 8 ling rushed me after he already killed the comp. I off-bunkered him and was about to kill him when I was backstabbed again by a toss with dts. I held them both off for a while but finally the toss brought in reavs and all I had was infantry so I was killed.

I'll tell ya, that's not a nice way to come back, and I'm not a bgh newbie.

A_Backstabber, I think that if the only enjoyment you get out of the game is taking away the fun from other people than you really should quit playing, at least for a while anyways.
#30 A_BackStabber[70054]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
Note that I never argue with the rating. I argue with the reasons why this report was considered sucked. So far I had only received Dref's answer.

As I mentioned before, I agree with Dref that this report depicted the cruelty and inhumane-ness of me and my roommate backstabbing our partners. I hope it is clear that this report did not attempt to depict real strategies or to show how great my backstabbing "skills" are. Playing on BGH while backstabbing them is for the fun factor of myself. It is true that I did not consider the feeling of the ones being backstabbed, and by no means I'm trying to justify that. However, I personally believe that in this report we had brought the idea of backstabbing into a higher level: backstabbing the backstabber.

Of course this was not shown as a nice doing, nor did I intended to depict. I intended to invoke enjoyment not from the players, or the gameplay, but from the situation arised with all the backstabbings. As Dref said, this is the worst backstab ever seen on this site. There are some people who did not find it funny, and there are some who did.

And also, I did not link this report "everywhere." I merely posted it in this forum and at shock's, which are the places where most BR.com visitors view. I strongly believe that most people in both places know enough about BR.com to see that this report is NOT a representative one for BR.com.

I would not, under any circumstances, do anything bad to this site. I did not want to reveal my true identity because I want to see what I would get if I haven't used my name. Now I do not want to reveal it too, since this would ruin this intention. If you manage to figure out who I am, keep it to yourself. If you didn't, you'll know soon, after I've received enough kind and real comments (truthfully) about the report.

Perhaps I should've added a line on the top of the report like Spine would:
THIS REPORT WAS NOT INTENDED FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD FEEL DISGUSTED BY BACKSTABBING. NO DISCRIMINATION INTENDED.
#31 A_BackStabber[70055]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
Here are what I liked about the comments:
<i>
Wow, you're so talented being able to backstab those newbies and all. GJ! Teach me brood wars k?
~Casper

like u have br skills but no SC/BW skills.
~teck.lika.hore

But anyway backstabbing sux...dun wish to view anymore reports on backstabbing.
~[LoR]-Punisher

GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE! YOU HAVE NO PART OF BEING IN HERE, BACKSTABBER!!
~Shepherd

Homosexual the worst part about it is that you posted it on br.com forum and shocks.
~Fox

The brutal way that you backstabbed was what got to me.
Start at 7 for nice pictures and decent writing.
Subtract ... 1 point for ruthlessly murdering your allies with no provocation.
I don't care who you are
~Dref

Those actions are deplorable. Backstabbing, even "bgh newbies" is a sadistic and counter-productive practice.
~Napoleic
</i>
And here is my favorite:
<b><i>This was pathetically gay.</u></b>
~Dref
#32 JonD[70057]
cdm-144-126-bcs.cox-internet.com
There was no new twist. There was only one backstabber, yourself.

#33 [stfu]MERLIN[70058]
129-2-217-14.student.umd.edu
BGH newbies are people too. This dude that lives on my floor is a BGH newbie and he gets more ass then you'd know what to do with it, so maybe he deserves to be backstabbed.
#34 [stfu]MERLIN[70059]
129-2-217-14.student.umd.edu
"Heh first of all, I agree with Dref's comment. It was brutal and in humane. But this is against BGH newbies so what goes? " - A_Backstabber

I'm guessing that plenty of people would consider you a BGH newbie, considering that good players usually dont play BGH at all and they dont backstab either.
#35 teck.lika.hore[70062]
JHU0024.RES.JHU.EDU
Ok, ok. I know I'm a hypocrite and I let subjective opinion get the better of me. Ok, your br was fairly well written, pics looked nice - and i guess that's what should count. The type of game it is, however, does detract from the report and you as a whole, and such behavior, again, makes bnet a heinous place for people w/o friends or nohunters (*wipes tear from eye*). 6.5 for br, -1 for BRing that kind of game. There. I've said my piece.

{insert witty signature here},
teck.lika.hore
#36 <b>Flood-G</b>[70063]
spider-tf043.proxy.aol.com
how can people tolerate backstabbing reports? people go into games looking to have fun but there just has to be some gay backstabbers out willing to crush the hopes of others. i can proudly rate backstabbers up with hackers on level of gayness. Backstabbing= no skillz!
#37 ][~tao~][[70065]
bele175.wuh.wustl.edu
i didn't mind that the report sucked or what the report was about, but the fact that u blantently advertised it on the forums made me sick. What sort of sick self glorification are u trying to achieve here? no one gives a fuck about you or your forum links. no one wants to see you and ur chobo partner backstab some poor newbie. and i think i'd be right in saying that most of us here would greatly prefer the company of your poor zerg partner over your sorry self promoting ass anyday. just do away and dont ever show up again. thx gw.
#38 SqueakyMonkey[70067]
osh1-40f.twcny.rr.com
My evil morals have prevented me from backstabbing, so I usually resort to cheesing. The responses are far funnier.
#39 Sexy^Orangutang[70070]
spider-ti084.proxy.aol.com
good funny stuff
#40 MultipleBoogies a.k.a }|battle'lord|{[70081]
212.52.140.13
I am heartbroken. I live in Africa, the continent where wars a raging worse than fires in the States, South Africa & Europe, all combined.

I watched the Middle East nearly go up in flames a few days ago. My Israelie friend in his 2nd year of college is leaving in the middle of the semester to go strengthen their army.

There are many human qualities that are responsible for all of these human disaster that have a far reaching effect on the lives of millions of people in the world. And, no surprise, backstabbing is certainly one of them. There is no way you can justify your backstabbing.

I think I know who you are. The pictures are a signature of someone, and I will search the reports till I discover who you are. I have lost all respect for you, whoever your "highness" might be.

To hell with you,
MultipleBoogies a.k.a }|battle'lord|{
#41 <font color=red>EVIL</font>Seiruu[70083]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
Hmz
I think you ppl are taking this way 2 seriously

It's a game after all
if you treated every game like playing with your brother and take it easier on him there wouldn't be any satisfaction in winning/losing

Sure backstabbing is not something to promote; however this BR was not to promote backstabbing as far as I can tell
I found it a very hilarious BR in fact

well written
nice pics
hilarious lines

Backstabbing aint nice?
So what?
So swearing is any better?
If you take this BR seriously like you guys are doing howbout the first intro lines where they are swearing eh?

it's a friendly game vs others, you're not suppose 2 swear and insult others. Some ppl take high off from that

I don't see any of you commenting about it

This BR is definitely worth higher than 6

rating below it is a ----ing joke
it's a personal act; not that from a neutral rater IMO

Then again I'm not very surprised seeing that the raters here have rated things way off their 'real value'
#42 <font color=red>EVIL</font>Seiruu[70084]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
MultipleBoogies a.k.a }|battle'lord|{[

gimme a break man
SC is a game where ppl are killing each other

marines shooting on others with bullets

blades cutting in flesh and where blood is shown

Man/Women that scream when they get blown apart

Why don't you go and sue Blizzard for their realistic warfare as well then?

In fact sue Westwood as well for making a similair game with realistic weapons

Also make sure to sue Blizzard for promoting Nukes

Some ppl are really getting on my nerves

GET A LIFE
#43 <font color=red>EVIL</font>Seiruu[70085]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
MultipleBoogies a.k.a }|battle'lord|{[

gimme a break man
SC is a game where ppl are killing each other

marines shooting on others with bullets

blades cutting in flesh and where blood is shown

Man/Women that scream when they get blown apart

Why don't you go and sue Blizzard for their realistic warfare as well then?

In fact sue Westwood as well for making a similair game with realistic weapons

Also make sure to sue Blizzard for promoting Nukes

Some ppl are really getting on my nerves

GET A LIFE
#44 King_[LSRS-13][70086]
c1081558-a.clmba1.mo.home.com
Dref, I remember you talking about backstabbing in one report's comment. I don't remember which though, but I remember you saying something like, "when red comes into your base say, ""WTF, RED WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY BASE? RED IS BACKSTABBING!!"" Then you get everyone to kill him and amidst the chaos it's just a matter of cleanup." Sadly enough, this is the funniest report I've read in a while.

King
#45 King_[LSRS-13][70087]
c1081558-a.clmba1.mo.home.com
I also remember quite vividly the report Dref did entitled "More Clan Fun" Where it depicted him playing a 2v2 on dire with a person from the MoH clan and then he backstabbed him in the end. Given, he was a maphacker and distributed them among others, but is it really any different? Live a little people, nh is turning into a clan like place where people will start talking about the 'dishonor of backstabbing'. Jeez, gimme a break. It's funny. Something must've went horribly wrong here while I've been sucked in by the D2 vortex of no return. BTW, whatever happened to SC.org? Did it shut down? Did it crash? ????

King
#46 King_[LSRS-13][70088]
c1081558-a.clmba1.mo.home.com
One more thing, IT's A GAME!!!!!!!!!! JUST A STUPID 30 DOLLAR GAME!!!!! YOU'D THINK THIS WAS REAL LIFE OR SOMETHING PEOPLE!!!!! PEOPLE ARE DYING AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT A FRIGGIN GAME WHERE SOMEONE KILLS ANOTHER FOR NO REASON!??? There, that feels better.
#47 <font color=red>EVIL</font>Seiruu[70089]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
Someone remind me not to hit <b>refresh</b> again hehe

Also let's get even more seriously while you guys are feeling up to it

answer me this

What is worse?
A) Backstabbing in an online wargame
B) Making racist remarks while playing an online wargame?

Obviously every person with a little tad of brain and goodness would pick B

Now you guys are flaming him because of A?
What about B?
Does backstabbing in an online game justifies for making racist insults?

I think <font color=red><b>NOT</b></font>!

Now either get a sense of humor or don't comment
#48 <font color=red>EVIL</font> Seiruu[70095]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
Oh and 1 more thing before I hit the sac

May I remind these dear innocent peaceful readers/raters that most of those gay FFA's with so called 'wellknown' NH players in them backstab each other <font color=red><b>ALL</ab></font> the time?

In fact there is still one big FFA by NH players where they backstabbed ( allying in FFA and then teaming up in attacks is backstabbing yes ) and it's now in Gold section

So basically doesn't this backfires on all your so called 'backstabbing is unacceptable; boo boo down with this br' speeches?

Fox
man you disappoint me
I thought you were dif than Drefsab

*sighs*
#49 [70096]
we-24-165-190-157.we.mediaone.net
The only thing I find humorous is that you presented backstabbing as if it were something new.

I do know who you are. At least I think I do....
#50 angrysalad[70101]
216-215-60-121.flash.net
I usually try not to get negative towards people, and I play Starcraft much more than I should - usually BGH just for the hell of it cause I want relaxing games where I don't have to be the best of the best to win.

Most people, especially BGH players, just play SC to have a good time competing. Backstabing is a repulsive act that can ruin the evening of those who are backstabbed. I'm not judging your BR, I've seen much better, I've seen much worse. What I am judging is your actions. You deliberately took the fun out of several people's playing of starcraft just cause you're bored. Get a life and find a new game or go do something. you have no right to play a game you're tired of just to make other people enjoy it less as well.

What gives me the right to judge you? You posted your actions in a public forum, and this is the kind of response you should expect and deserve to recieve.

Go to hell.
#51 King_[LSRS-13][70112]
c1081558-a.clmba1.mo.home.com
Damn you people, there's been a few more reports than this ONE singular report. Why don't you search and flame them if you hate backstabbing so much? I think you'll find Drefsab one, maybe YRM, nobo's cool, i think, and possibly others that have been around here since the beginning.
#52 MultipleBoogies a.k.a }|battle'lord|{[70134]
212.52.140.13
This is mostly in response to EVIL Seiruu.

Dear sir.

I believe that every action we do reflect on our personlity, which in return, determines the type of person we are. Many people say, "It's just a game," but is it really?

Yes, SC & many other games (Half-Life, Quakee etc) are far from unviolent. Human nature is violent by nature; civilization is what has refined us, somewhat.

Isn't it good that we have the opportunity to release our violent tendancies in a way that doesn't cause harm? Almost all the games I play, I do becuase I have fun playing & sometimes, i.e. playing Half-Life, when I'm pissed at life in general & just want to go: heat-grenade, flash-grenade, & r*p* with my commander weapon, MP5.

I hold a very lenient view of of swear words. My friends & I make liberal use of them. I use them as a means of "beautifying" my spoken speach (sometimes, written too). I try hard to refrain from using swear words for the purposes of harm, hurt or other things, negative in nature. You will be hard pressed to find some who finds that I have used swear words for the purposes of insulting.

SC/BW, Half-Life may "just be games," but they can serve to reveal human nature. The same human nature tearing up our world. In my mind, no matter what is said, backstabbing & A_BackStabber is/are unforgiveable.

EVIL Seiruu, look at your name--are you evil? And in your gaming experience, haven't you come across something that spoiled you day. I have been playing for years and have had many a day spoilt by a "bad" day gaming.

Remember, keep it real & peace,
MultipleBoogies a.k.a }|battle'lord|{


PS. I'm African & black. Racism goes straight to my heart.
#53 Scarab[70137]
AC89084F.ipt.aol.com
why are you being such a damned pussy

"oh wah, people are saying my report sucked, and said things like "pathetically gay" OH NO"

your report did fucking suck, now shut the hell up, god damn.
#54 ~13~ShAdOwDrAc[70138]
spider-wa061.proxy.aol.com
Interesting report, A_BS. Well written and stuff, even though backstabbing is a crappy way to play, except on really BGH newbs who don't know how to expand and stuff in case such a thing happens. When I play a game, whether I plan to BS or not, I always guard my choke and walls best I can, so I can survive a backstab.

MB Aka BL-
Backstabbing in a game such as Starcraft may be mean and cruel and all, but it does help relieve a lot of stress. Me, I'm 16, live at home, no car, no life, and a crappy job. To keep myself sane, I listen to violent music and play Starcraft whenever I can. Otherwise, my thoughts are always "Kill the stupid peons, blow them to hell, they deserve to die, kill, kill, kill, destroy, all will die!"
Starcraft allows me to do that, even if it is impersonal. Thats something I like about Half-Life and Quake. First person and I get to play with nice toys and blow things up.
Racism has nothin 2 do with it=I hate everybody equally.
Civilization has not refined us, somewhat or otherwise. War breeds insanity. Insanity breeds Chaos. Chaos breeds more war. War is a product of Civilization. Word.

~13~ShAdOwDrAc
#55 Napoleic[70143]
van4d8.dial.uniserve.ca
Evil Seirul (or whatever) I find your responce to our criticisms of A_Backstabber sadly lacking in anything other than rhetoric.

Whey you look at your argument you seem to be saying this:
what A_Backstabber did was mildy bad

Other people do much worse things all the time

Therefore we shouldn't think that what A_Backstabber did was bad at all.


Let's all think about the implications of that argument. Anything is ok so long as there is something worse that could be done. That is clearly wrong.

Furthermore you seem to be saying that we should instead comment about swearing and/or racism. However, most people aren't bothered by swearing, and racism doesn't seem to be too rampant (except for maybe against koreans). I do agree with you that we should condemn racists, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't condemn backstabbers. And besides, the last time someone did get to be quite abusive, nohunters united in their disaproval of him ( :+:Goldfinger:+: )

I think that it's important that people know that Backstabbing is not looked kindly upon by the majority of the community.
#56 Sexy^Orangutang[70152]
spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com
good funny stuff
#57 Sexy^Orangutang[70153]
spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com
good funny stuff
#58 <font color=yellow> |]agomar[70157]
static-49.itcanada.com
Im sorry I didn't think this was funny at all, just exceptionaly gay.
#59 <font color=yellow> |]agomar[70159]
static-49.itcanada.com
And here here Dref I totally agree. I was surprised at that as well. The guy seemed very nice and even said you two were friends.
#60 <font color=red>EVIL</font> Seiruu[70160]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
MultipleBoogies a.k.a }|battle'lord|{

So basically you're saying that things like
-shooting each others head off,
-killing females,
-use nukes,
-play different races,
in a WAR game is NOT giving a bad view of the realistic world but <i>backstabbing</i> in these games is?

Oh pls

Napoleic
Apparently you didn't notice that all those things I compared with his 'bad' doings are ALL in the same game

Now obviously you don't here me saying 'sure backstabbing is bad but what Clinton did it worse'

I am indd comparing them to worse things
So what?
It all happened <b>IN</b> the same game

If you all point out 1 'bad' thing in the same and ignore all the others ( because that would go against all your negative comments IMO ) whats the point of commenting/rating?

Also "However, most people aren't bothered by swearing, and racism doesn't seem to be too rampant (except for maybe against koreans)."

I highly disagree with you
swearing and racism in games are FAR worste than backstabbing
#61 angrysalad[70169]
2-89-41-216.wor.ma.nevd.net
WTF are you talking about? Swearing is not worse than backstabbing. Swearing is a form of communication that may be insulting to some people, but is common practice by most. Racism is revolting to me but I was judging A_BS on his actions, not his views. I have my own opinions, and I should thus respect others opinions, as long as they don't infringe on people themselves. Backstabbing does just that. It is a pointless act of cruelty to other humans.

Sure StarCraft is a violent game. OH MY GOD!!! This does not stop the fact that most people simply play it for the competition of a fair fight rather than to get back at the world for all their problems. Backstabbing robs them of that. The practice is pathetic.

~Angrysalad
#62 angrysalad[70170]
2-89-41-216.wor.ma.nevd.net
Also, I believe that backstabbing is worse than making racist comments. While I dislike racism, comments can be shrugged off as they are usually found in the uneducated or socially frustrated population. When you backstab someone, you are robbing them of something they had invested time and energy into - a good and challenging game. You are wasting their time.

~Angrysalad
#63 angrysalad[70171]
2-89-41-216.wor.ma.nevd.net
One more thing, people seem to think that its ok to backstab BGH newbies because they're, well, newbies. This is complete BS as newbies are even less able to defend themselves against such dishonest actions. You are betraying them not only when you join or create a game for newbies, but again when you backstab them, as if you couldn't beat them fairly. The practice is that of the playground bully.

~Angrysalad
#64 <font color=red>EVIL</font> Seiruu[70172]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
"Swearing is not worse than backstabbing. Swearing is a form of communication that may be insulting to some people, but is common practice by most. "

Gimme a break man
you can't just say 'it's a common practice by most' and therefore it's completely oke to swear

Insulting, racism, swearing are personal attacks
Backstabbing in a BGH game is completely in game area

IT'S INGAME
How is that worse than personal attacks?

Again backstabbing is not something that I'd do in a game
or recommend but if there's a hilarious BR about it I certainly wouldn't act like a saint and go all out bashing on it when it happens ALL THE TIME on bnet and in other BRcom reports and apparently the majorty accept it if it happens amongst friends ( or NH buddies )

Get a sense of humor
#65 Starookie[70179]
edtn009306.hs.telusplanet.net
Gay report.



7 =]



#66 A_BackStabber[70182]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
I don't see why there is a controversy here. I think what EVIL Seiruu saying was that backstabbing was bad, but there are bad things too, while most other (note I said most but not all) said backstabbing is bad/imhumune/doom to the end of world. I mean, not SHITNUTZ backstabbing is bad. I don't see why you guys are arguing about the same thing. I also don't see why some of you really care so much about I backstab BGH newbies. Please tell me you are really disgusted so badly by backstabbing, compared to Iran bombing embassy, Nazi burning Jews, Japanese experimenting their biological weapon on Chinese civilians, or the KKK killing black people. I just found this very amasing.

Of course backstabbing an online friend is a very mean thing to do, possibly you would lose your friend; but backstabbing someone you don't really know except that they are easy to make fun of, and did act like the majority of the BGH people (eg. 2+6=6 ~Spine quoting BGH newbies) --- a complete idiot. I didn't say they deserve the backstabbing. Hell I didn't even think I enjoy the act of backstabbing; but their reaction is purely halirious. Perhaps next time I'll be like spine and put this after the title:
<h1>THIS REPORT WAS NOT INTENDED FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD FEEL DISGUSTED BY BACKSTABBING. NO DISCRIMINATION INTENDED. </h1>

so then for you people who really think that backstabbing is the worst thing on earth, no harm would be done to your mind.
#67 A_BackStabber[70183]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
BTW Sacrab I think you might be a tiny little bit dumb if you actually think I'm complaining that people are saying this report sucked. I welcome different point of views but I want to present my own too. Eat a dick newbie!
#68 King_[LSRS-13][70184]
c1081558-a.clmba1.mo.home.com
Sometimes I join a BGH game and backstab. Yes, I do and I don't give a crap what you all think about it. I do it not because they're 'newbies', I do it because THEY PLAY BGH!!!!!!! Jesus, can't you people get that through your heads? If we don't make them mad enough, they'd be happy and keep playing Big Gay Hunters and tell all their friends to play it because it's the perfect world.
#69 [70190]
208.196.35.239
I just thought it kinda sucked that you went ahead and killed someone after he tried to help you... :(

Dref
#70 -TopGun-'[70197]
212.52.140.24
King_[LSRS-13]--->
"I [backstab] not because they're 'newbies', I do it because THEY PLAY BGH!!!!!!!.....If we don't make them mad enough, they'd be happy and keep playing Big Gay Hunters and tell all their friends to play it because it's the perfect world"

--tell me my fellow human, why can't they play BGH if they wanted. Once upon a time & still rarely now, I remember playing there, and I know I still will. Nothing is perfect--no person, no map, no law.....



A_BackStabber--->
"I welcome different point of views but I want to present my own too. Eat a dick newbie!"

--Tell me, do all welcoming committees do their welcoming with "Eat a dick...."? You really are showing your bad side. Who ARE you?



A_BackStabber--->
"THIS REPORT WAS NOT INTENDED FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD FEEL DISGUSTED BY BACKSTABBING. NO DISCRIMINATION INTENDED."

--You posted on www.battlereports.com, as well as linking the report to other sites, hoping that it will be endorsed? Who do you want to read it, fools, pathetic humans, unthinking folks, or terrorists? Again, who are you? Show your face, alongside your opinions--wuss.



EVIL Seiruu--->
"Gimme a break man
you can't just say 'it's a common practice by most' and therefore it's completely oke to swear"

--You're the only one who can give yourself a break. You are not being forced to read/write comments. And, we hold different views about swearing; don't tramp on my opinions, please.



EVIL Seiruu--->
"Insulting, racism, swearing are personal attacks
Backstabbing in a BGH game is completely in game area"

--Insulting & swearing are, in my mind, two different things; I swear, but I don't insult. I don't wish to come across as a saint. I saw an "evil," and I spoke out for my beliefs.



EVIL Seiruu--->
".....but if there's a hilarious BR about [backstabbing] I certainly wouldn't act like a saint and go all out bashing on it when it happens ALL THE TIME on bnet...."



EVIL Seiruu--->
"So basically you're saying that things like
-shooting each others head off,
-killing females,
-use nukes,
-play different races,
in a WAR game is NOT giving a bad view of the realistic world but backstabbing in these games is?"

--Sir Evil, when I play games, I am very well aware that I am playing "A GAME." Yes, many times, the realities of world are reflected in games, so? And, I have to say that your "killing females" comment sounds completely out of place. Who plays SC with the mind of killing "females," god!

To recap, an "evil" is an "evil," be it "small" or "big," "lasting" or "momentary." Evil is all its forms should be dealt with, so that future generations might live a better life.

Insults & swearing are different uses of a genre of words. I swear, but I don't make use of insults. I choose to be against insults, but swearing has become a part of my language, with my peers only, of course.

Remember, our world is what we make it....keep it real & peace,
-TopGun-' (previously, Multiple...}|battle...)
#71 A_BackStabber[70200]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
Also, topgun, "eat a dick, newbie" was 'invented' by Bob. Perhaps you hate Bob, or if you don't know about this, go eat a dick, newbie!
#72 A_BackStabber[70201]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
Oh and BTW, I play Starcraft because I enjoy it, not because other people can enjoy the game. I'm no saint.
#73 [70204]
as530043.infocom.com
I'm not "very offended", I just thought it was a jerkass thing to do... ;-)

Dref
#74 A_BackStabber[70207]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
It was. But this is not like the things I'd do to someone I know, or in a serious game. And of course, backstabbing in BGH is NOT a serious game, obviously.
#75 King_[LSRS-13][70218]
c1081558-a.clmba1.mo.home.com
Speaking of BGH playing, can anyone safely say they remember the last time they played BGH seriously? I don't think any of you can.
#76 [70225]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
yah

last night :D
#77 Sexy^Orangutang[70226]
spider-ta077.proxy.aol.com
10 bucks says jv got bored and posted this br.... who's with me?
#78 -TopGun-'[70236]
212.52.140.11
I dunno.....with all his "You like backstab?"...I really don't know.
#79 angrysalad[70242]
216-215-60-146.flash.net
It seems that backstabbing is being justified in several ways.

1) They're just newbies.
uh...as far as I can see, that's all the more reason not to backstab. Its kinda along the in game lines of entering a playground and beating up the kindergardeners.

2) Its just BGH, so obviously its not a serious game.
BGH is serious to those who play it, but you're entering it from a league far above it. See #1

3) There are worse things like swearing and racism.
Racism disgusts me, but swearing? give me a break. if someone tells me to perform a physically impossible act on myself, it doesn't ruin my day, but is someone betrays trust I have given them (there is a matter of trust in all mele games) then it really gives one a bad feeling.

4) It's just a game
Whether its just a game or not, there is a matter of trust that is given in all mele games. What would b-net be like if you entered a game knowing that you would probably be backstabbed and so have to play the entire time defending against your partner rather than defeating the enemy?

~Angrysalad
#80 Napoleic[70291]
van2d34.dial.uniserve.ca
Excellent points top gun and Angry Salad. As I said, Seiruu and A_Backstabber, I think the act of backstabbing is a hideous deplorable act, but only in the context of bnet. Of course there are worse things you can do in real life, but on bnet backstabbing is about the worse thing you can do to someone.

I personally don't really care too much when someone insults, and I don't care at all if some says fuck in an uninsulting way. eg: "Fuck, im dead"

On the other hand having an ally drop multiple reavers in your back door is a real kick in the nuts, and makes it almost impossible to win.

Backstabbing is still a rather uncommon occurence on bnet, the time I described in an earlier post is the only time it has ever happened to me. But it was enough to really piss me off.

You said yourself A_Backstabber, you posted this report to see how people would react. Now you know.
#81 <font color=red>EVIL</font> Seiruu[70300]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
angrysalad

I agree with your first and second point

However about that 3th and 4th;

It's your own personal opinion
The fact remains that they were making personal attacks ( racism,swearing etc ) while it's only a game

Yes I agree getting backstabbed is not a very good thing for your mood but I wouldn't be 'offended' by it

Because after all it's a game

I would make sure that I'll never play that dewd again remember what kind of a low act he is

But using racism is something that I will NOT do EVER
It makes me wanna puke and think about the morals of these players when they even have 2 take personal insults in a game

Also judging the average bnet player they are not even close 2 adults

So don't gimme this bs about swearing is acceptable etc
#82 <font color=yellow> |]agomar[70301]
gateway.ncdsb.com
All this stupid, pointless talk revolts me. I mean, come on.

First of all backstabbing in Starcraft ( which is hardly a violent game ) is certainly not in the same league as racism. Swearing is "dirty" but certainly not exactly a major moral lapse. Backstabbing if you're in a 7v1 comp or something can be acceptable, but this report gets a 2 from me because of the disqusting way you killed someone who wanted to be your friend and help you.

And that's not mentioning that it was on BGH with newbies and gay humour.
#83 Eriador[70322]
port3.msx12-tro.ppp.cybercity.no
the report was almost funny some times.

but your a fucking lamer

1

eri
#84 (~)Hoss!(~)[70323]
spider-wf071.proxy.aol.com
I don't know who wrote this, but damn they're funny.

Most people are obviously reading this for the wrong reason. I immediately noticed it was for humor, and yes, I found this game really humorous. Now when you have to argue that doing "bad stuff" in a friggin online game is inhuman, you obviously are taking this a little too seriously.

This report has inspired me to go backstab a newbie today.
#85 King_[LSRS-13][70377]
c1081558-a.clmba1.mo.home.com
You go Hoss, and btw do you know what your name really means? I do. It means gentle giant.

King
#86 [70391]
as530088.infocom.com
That's better... prozerran, that was a jerkass thing to do... ;-)

Dref
#87 [70398]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
comment #75:
It was. :)
#88 ProtectorofAiur[70430]
SID.MIT.EDU
i guessed it was you fls, ask fox
#89 angrysalad[70433]
216-215-61-3.flash.net
lol, son of a bitch. it is interesting how one battle report can bring out the worst in a lot of people.
Even though you're famous I still think you were a prick and that its not ok to backstab newbies, but this grows old. I do see some of the points you made in #87 though.

~Angry Salad
#90 [70472]
HNW0511.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU
heh POA, my initial list of people who would've guessed it was me has you in it. :) along with whoop of course.
#91 -TopGun-'[70947]
212.52.140.39
~~newbies rest in peace~~
#92 ZooTV[81014]
igw-se.astra.com
Well made report, but u r the kinda nob who ruins B.net
Do more good reports and don't b so gay otherwise all newbs will learn 2 backstab fro nobs like u.
:(
#93 Cearas[86342]
cache08.syd.optusnet.com.au
gay, kinda like the reporter.
#94 asdf[107654]
c6582.extern.lawrenceville.org
asdf
#95 AJ Adoniz[154027]
pcp09697790pcs.limstn01.de.comcast.net
I'm new to this whole new BR.com stuff. I'm hooked into reading these reports, be it about anything. My first report to read was Raiders long ass story which is yet to finish (its good). I've been reading the comments up to maybe 50 I think, maybe more, and so I skipped down to comment becuase it's the same old shit over and over again. BTW, concerning A_Backstabber, I liked it, it was humorous. I give it an 8. It seems like some of you are riding eachothers dicks and are making this great idea of reporting gaming adventures into such a political thing. Don't get sidetracked or else you might lose viewers. I was rolling on the part about KP. I didn't know what it meant, I have never heard of it. Korean Pride, lol. Good stuff. I want to test out my hand at writing reports soon. GGz all.



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