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#1 :+:SlipKnoT:+:[57742]
bc-kam-a53-02-44.look.ca
Woooo first weeeee!!!!!
#2 Bane[57743]
fcs01asm.asm.bellsouth.net
I'd like to apologize. When I did these pics I knew a lot less about imaging than I do now; I'm going to release a BR soon to redeem myself =]

Personally I think the quality of the game and the anime chick brings this to a 10 though... =]

<font size="4">Enjoy!!</font>

Bane





#3 The.Confessor[57744]
user-1054km9.dsl.mindspring.com
HAHAHA, ITS COME, ITS COME! ME 3rd!
#4 Fractal_Wave[57745]
24.64.214.37.bc.wave.home.com
~Pees self~

All the best,
Fractal_Wave


#5 ::nobody::[57746]
dt0f4n84.san.rr.com
Omg my end graphic just owns. OWNS. that chick is so hot ^^

Nice job witht he rest of the repor Bane and Fox, u guys own (but not as much as my end graphic muhahaha) :)

ciao!
Nobo




#6 Fractal_Wave[57747]
24.64.214.37.bc.wave.home.com
Duuude...Tiller vs. Pillars. That'd own.

Neat report, even if Mark got kinda molested.

All the best,
Fractal_Wave




#7 :+:SlipKnoT:+:[57749]
bc-kam-a53-02-44.look.ca
Where the hot girls at?





mark lost :[





#8 <font color=yellow>Protophobic</font>[57750]
cm-24-161-42-125.nycap.rr.com
<font color=yellow>Jesus Christ I cannot belive you didnt color code names. That is so incredibly basic and detracts a hell of a lot from this BR.

I also found the writing rather dull, like you were up late writing it or something. Dissapointed, guys :(

The graphical work is of course top notch but you can't fall behind on the aforementioned stuff :(

7


#9 DivvyO[57751]
162.119.232.100
asdf posted before Mark4 bah poopoo no more free publicity for me.

But then again this is a much better report, so I suppose I have no real qualms about it all.

Div
#10 CynicalMagician[57752]
px1cl.gv.wave.shaw.ca
Wow fox, we should rename you WarLeaderFox >)

Good stuff guys, that was a pretty good game. I found some of the details were lost, but it wasn't intolerable by any means. Oh yeah: to whoever was doing the imaging: WTF IS WITH BMPS?!?! DON'T USE THEM@!!!!!@1!!21!!! THANKS CLEVAR MSITER ENSTIENE!!@!@!!!

Nice job guys. I pissed my pants when I heard the next thing is Tillerman vs Pillars. TvP. Who has the advantage?
-CM
#11 CynicalMagician[57753]
px1cl.gv.wave.shaw.ca
Oh btw fox, read my BR please. You know you want to. I know you have D2 as well, you can't keep a secret like that quiet forever.
#12 [57756]
fred92.u1.cos.pcisys.net
This BR is awesome. Bane is awesome. ::Nobody:: is awesome. Mark4 is awesome. Tillerman is awesome.

Pillars vs Tillerman

REALLY AWESOME!!!!!!!

Fox^1
#13 Sonneillon[57757]
tsdlsk01d01010122.sk.sympatico.ca
Ugh - bitmaps? Well - it's time to do the trendy thing and use the greater than sign...

Huge bitmaps > 56K connection. I had to let this load for like 5 minutes while I was on the phone.

And, Cynical covered everything else that needed saying other than this report is a solid 7. Yes, a solid 7. I just found the details needed (and that could've been easily provided) when you have three people watching wasn't there.

-Sonny Bouy
#14 CraZy[57758]
24.65.122.105.sk.wave.home.com
Ok a few things

Nice commentry this time : Fox

And nice images : Nobo and Bane

One more thing is that Mark4 did a great job of that game holding off one of the greats for soooooo long. Good work
#15 probe[57759]
242820hfc23.tampabay.rr.com
bitmaps are not iternet friendly images, you dumasses.
use jpegs on 0 compression, or .gif

that way you can actually view the fucking things
#16 probe[57760]
242820hfc23.tampabay.rr.com
now that geocities decides to get its head out of its ass....













your entire br depends on the final near-nude anime chick.

Shitty writing.
decent pictures.

if this gets higher than an 8, then i'm seriously never coming here again.

5
#17 Bane[57762]
fcs01asm.asm.bellsouth.net
I didnt use bmp's... I used .gif's...
#18 Afro~[potato][57763]
adsl-63-200-49-139.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
man what are those girls numbers
(slurp)
#19 @_Loser[57764]
spider-wa063.proxy.aol.com
Man, Pillars and Tillerman. I feel tingly all over.

I got just one word for the next round:

HEARTCUTTER

I havent seen anything about him for a long time.
#20 ::nobody::[57765]
dt0f4n84.san.rr.com
Probe: cmon man, even for a cynical guy like you, the report is at least a gold. You've seen gold quality, and this holds its own. Besides, all BRs eith my name on them rely on near nude anime chicks, so i dont see why this is different :P hehe

But seriously, i hear ur criticism and understand ur points, but look at BRs with a rating of 5. This isnt on that level.

CiaO!
Nobo
#21 Wosest~Yoda[57767]
pm3-1-138.boscobel.mwt.net
hehe cool stuff
i wanna be a tillerman when i grow up
#22 Wisest*[57768]
pm3-1-138.boscobel.mwt.net
huk
#23 Sonneillon[57769]
tsdlsk01d01010122.sk.sympatico.ca
It is on the 7 level though. +/- .5 Now that I think about it, this is an <b>exact</b> 7. No higher, no less.

Anyways, ta ta. Gotta play a little bit with a lvl 9 Amazon...heh.

And a tip folks, never ever put any more than one point for any of the low level stuff. The only thing you are going to want more than 1 point for the Amazon is: Critical strike (get that to around 46-50%), strafe, immolation arrow, Valkrei (or however you spell the silly word), Ice explosion (?) and maybe multi shot. I think I missed one or two though... heh.
#24 SlingsNArrows[57776]
bgm-24-95-150-230.stny.rr.com
I thoroughly enjoyed it, but as a comedy BR, not a strat BR that a game between M4 and Tillerman could've been. I always bitch about the micro, tell us about the micro! Waaaaaaa :o( u didn't tell us about the micro. It's a 9 if u look at it as a comedy ( fox is hilarious ) it's a 7 if u look at it as a straight up BR... and so it's an 8 rolled together imho
#25 probe[57777]
242820hfc23.tampabay.rr.com
this aint no fucking gold
THE WRITING SUCKS, THERE IS NONE, AND THE STYLE SUCKS.
the pictures aren't even good.

seriously, you depended on your name and your nudie anime chick to get the rating.

fucking pathetic
#26 anal-banana[57778]
bcfw1d.ext.bridge.com
Yeah I second the heartcutter motion. I wanna see more heartcutter!!
#27 Bane[57779]
fcs01asm.asm.bellsouth.net
nobo, dont argue w/ him its pointless; im searching for a word to describe him but i cant so ill just leave it at that
#28 anal-banana[57780]
bcfw1d.ext.bridge.com
Also I agree with probe. more on the strats and stuff and less on the inside jokes.. they got really old.
#29 ::nobody::[57781]
dt0f4n84.san.rr.com
Wow probe where is all this anger coming from :(

Ill let fox and Bane defend their work b/c they did this one but stop worrying about what rating we'll get. It could get a fuxing 1, woop dee doo. doesnt matter to me.

The point is is that we are trying to have fun bringing you a game between two good players. You are entitled to you opinion, but there is NO reason to slander us like that. You dont like it, dont read it.

whats "fucking pathic" is that you care SOOO much about the RATING this FUN report of a GAME is going to get. Go outside and take some deep breaths :) thx gw.


Everyone else: Thanks for the comments! i hate posting stuff like this :P so ignore all the above stuf if u aint probe :D

ciao!
Nobo
#30 ::nobody::[57782]
dt0f4n84.san.rr.com
doh bane u posted while i was writing hehe

ciao!
Nobo
#31 Bane[57783]
fcs01asm.asm.bellsouth.net
when did probe say that? heh
#32 ::nobody::[57784]
dt0f4n84.san.rr.com
u confuse me Bane :P and i realized i cant spell pathetic :D

we are spamming :O

ciao!
Nobo
#33 Bane[57785]
fcs01asm.asm.bellsouth.net
comment 31 is geared to comment 28 btw hehe
#34 Talon[57787]
cx110054-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com
I can so tell who did the alt texts fucking smileys@W)^($@^)+
#35 CraX[57793]
dialups-126.palmer.mtaonline.net
wow thats tough.. pvt on polaris prime.. mark4 good show =D
#36 asdf[57794]
PPPa20-ResaleNewYorkMetro21-5R7188.saturn.bbn.com
:( this was not that good. Probe is right
#37 Napoleic[57795]
24.66.179.206.bc.wave.home.com
Hey I thought this was a great report. I laughed through the whole thing and it was a great game. And I didn't even care about the frikin anime pic! I think the triple dialogue with fox propping Mark4 the whole time was sweet ass. I got all the jokes and they ruled.

I don't see where probe is coming from, unless maybe he's just mad at you personally or something. I don't want to get into any more arguments (already in a couple ;) ) But I thought this was a sweet report that should get an 8 or 9. I think a lot of the people who dissed this just jumped on the Probe bandwagon personally.
#38 probe[57799]
242820hfc23.tampabay.rr.com
probe bandwagon? you kiddin? everybody here hates me, there's no "lets agree with probe" bandwagon.

The report sucked, they simply thought so too.
#39 Mogalin[57801]
d226-98-102.home.cgocable.net
Uhm

I'm speechless

A) Bane really can't do anything with graphics beyond the basic uh like cropping and adding borders.

B) The writing commentary style lets us no so little about the game it's annoying.

C) Why the hell didn't nobody do the pics he's so much better :-(.

D) Keep up the good work ;-)

#40 Mogalin[57802]
d226-98-102.home.cgocable.net
No offense of course Bane.
#41 Snork~Dimmy[57808]
async27-per2-isp-4.nas.one.net.au
i'd say a solid 7 for this, it was just a little lacking, the game was great but it just didn't seem as good as the others, the anime chick owns all though, man i gotta go back and see that pic again.


<font color="red">Snork~Dimmy</font>
#42 S_Warrior[57812]
d5090.dtk.chello.nl
Well
the game was kinda one sided

it's Mark4 getting bashed ( sorry Mark4 :p ) almost all game with a couple of nice reaver drops

the HTML in this game was nowhere near the quality of your other 3 way BR :p

Not enough details in the fight

this br seemed like it was rushed to write and post
#43 [57814]
dt031nab.tampabay.rr.com
agreeing with most of those bad things =P

commentary style is annoying, pics showing off how many fonts you can download is annoying
#44 crispyfix[57817]
CWIP-T-004-p-215-217.tmns.net.au
Bane: Fox I can barely hear you, your head is totally engulfed by Mark4’s ass. ...

Fox: Bah! Mark4 is going for early gas...

Actual lines from the BR
#45 Bloodcry[57819]
kch-cache5.jaring.my
I enjoyed it.
But as the above people said, more for comedy and fun, rather than strat. But difficult to do a serious BR for this one, cause Mark4 got beaten really bad (he did put up fight though). As you can't really learn a lot from one sided battles, the lack of details IMHO is forgivable.

I liked it, and probably lots of other people who didn't post liked it. Probably minority feel as strongly against it as probe.

I'd give it a 7,8.
If it was better game (which would mean more battle details), it would get higher.

That was just my two cents.

But good try.

I wanna see Pillars vs Tillerman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



#46 SCV~007[57821]
t2o57p118.telia.com
Looking forward to the next one..

But I have an issue here.. I just posted my first 2 BRs and I seriously don't think this one was better than mine (got 7).
Mainly because of the details. There are none. All you really get to know is Tiller macroed and won over Mark4:s micro... thats less detail then I used and I was flamed for it.

The comedy part is great though, hehe "frosty"..

I want more details in the next one!

7 (maybe +1 for the anime and great players)
#47 Bane[57824]
fcs01asm.asm.bellsouth.net
Mog, read my first comment budy =] I did these pics a long time ago and know much more about graphics now than I did then.
#48 ProtectorofAiur[57827]
coswebproxy1.core.hp.com
wow this was really cool. my hat's off to mark4 for competing with the best in the world...

about the br, hey there's no need to bash it. bleh, you're bringing out the mean side to nobo for crying out loud.
#49 BW-sux[57829]
spider-we064.proxy.aol.com
Umm... on a positive note, that chick is HOT!!

7
BW-sux
#50 jeezumcrow[57837]
svwebw02.statestreet.com
wow , incredible game!
i think i like this better cause of the 3 of you bantering throughout the game hehe.

8
#51 [57838]
WCS3.NORFOLK.NIPR.MIL
So, there you have it. Who would have thought that a decent battle report writer would have gotten his ass kicked by one of the best players in the world?

The main problem I had was that I went far too long without scouting, and I didn't buy enough templars. The 50 muta horde was almost a complete surprise to me. If I scouted five minutes earlier instead of trying to drop two or three more expansions, I could have had the twelve or so corsair I needed to defend. Not that it would have won me the game, but I would have had a chance. From the time my main fell to the end of the game was about half an hour...and I'd stopped playing to win, I was just trying to annoy Tiller =]. His macro was a "lot" better than mine. He expanded well and massed troops...I just expanded.
#52 Mogalin[57839]
d226-98-102.home.cgocable.net
yeah bane i did read that but you see.. you released the pics with your ... how do i say this... less skillful imagery included.

I have some tips for you:

A) Buttonizing a picture is bad - if you could put a border instead or even a simple drop shadow it looks so much better.

B) Zoom in when cutting out minimaps. I can't even begin to tell you how bothered I get when i see that crappy "edge" stuff that shouldn't be there.

C) Those fonts are completely awful. Most specifically the Hydras (some sort of sign goes here I couldn't see it correctly and I'm assuming it was >) Reavers font and the Early game font.

D) Can't wait for a new report. :P With, of course, gosu imagery.
#53 Breeze[57843]
mail.net-bg.net
Great players, a nice game... well I think you were a bit lazy with the BR, but it's still ok... =P

Probe, man... you're a bit extreme sometimes, even when you're right... You have no mercy =[

Damn =[ you should have really put some more effort on this one, I expected so much of it... Still less than 7-8 is not realistic, I would give it a 8 because of good humour and famous players...

Have fun
#54 {88}HawK[57844]
209.128.34.3
Tillerman is very good, not one of the best in the world yet. Probably #6 or - #9.

Pillars > Tillerman. I obsed him beat him twice.
Tiller is very good... not the " super godly elite" people though.

Good game, hard to follow commentary.
7
#55 Sharandar[57846]
199.94.72.235
I was disappointed somewhat. The game was good for a report (even though we knew Tiller was going to win as soon as he got those mutas) but I felt like it was being skimmed over a good deal. With as much micro going on as there was, it seemed very brief.

I'm an all-text advocate, but if you're going to put images in there, they should at least look good. THese weren't bad, but instead of giving people points becuase they've been good in the past, they should at least be held to the standards they've set for themselves. I've seen better-written, better-imaged games from all three of these guys individually, and what disappointed me was that this was the worst BR I've seen any of them do (unless I;m forgetting one =P)

From an objective point of view, I'd give it a 7. But because I think we all know these guys are capable of far more, I'll give it a 6 =P. Same "Mark4 is God" joke got old after the fourth time or so.

But then, my rating doesn't really count =).

Oh, yeah, Mark--good work holding off TIller for as long as you did--that must've been a helluva lot of work.

--Sharandar
#56 Dean=dead[57848]
smtorfw2.sdbi.ca
The series reminds me of when I played tillerman.....pvt ...he must have had 40 barracks running 0/0 marines. I had all protoss tech and half the map. I would storm and kill 100 marines at a time, but I couldn't do shit all to him. Best player I ever played..... I was smoked.

congrats to M4 for staying in there...


#57 Dean=dead[57850]
smtorfw2.sdbi.ca
The series reminds me of when I played tillerman.....pvt ...he must have had 40 barracks running 0/0 marines. I had all protoss tech and half the map. I would storm and kill 100 marines at a time, but I couldn't do shit all to him. Best player I ever played..... I was smoked.

congrats to M4 for staying in there...


#58 Casper...[57855]
on-tor-blr-a58-03-709.look.ca
Don't give a man props for humiliating you son. All marines vs Protoss? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's something I used to do to newbies.
#59 Oddity[57856]
px1he.ss.wave.shaw.ca
In my opinion(which no one cares about) this report was "ok", the commentary was annoying tho :(
I just wanna say gj mark, dunno if you had much of a chance tho as soon as tiller got zerg on polaris prime. When ur on a big map like that no one ever has a chance vs a good zerg :(
#60 probe[57860]
242820hfc23.tampabay.rr.com
mercy is for the weak
#61 Bane[57869]
fcs01asm.asm.bellsouth.net
Mog, you're right and I'm sorry. Actually I already said you're right and I'm sorry...but anyway.

This was when I just switched imaging programs, didn't know much about it, etc. But enough excuses; I threw out the actual SS from the game so I couldn't redo them. It was my mistake and I'll take the fault for all of it. I will work 110% in the Pillars vs. TillerMaN series. And check out my post on the forum everyone.

Once again I'm sorry.

Bane
#62 Bane[57870]
fcs01asm.asm.bellsouth.net
and btw, Hawk, I've talked to Pillars. He says he and Tiller are nearly even now. Imagine Tiller's Zerg vs. Pillars' toss on temple. =]
#63 Skullbattalion[57872]
hoproxy1.proxy.lucent.com
I bow to the most gosu of br writers of all time! simply a well written form of art. I shall now hire whores to satisfy your every pleasure. except for fox, ill give him a blow up dummy of mark4 so he can have his way with it.
#64 see previuos[57876]
hoproxy1.proxy.lucent.com
and damn what a hot ass chick that was even if it was a anime pic grrrrr ruff ruff.
#65 DragonValgarv[57881]
otto.nawcad.navy.mil
Bahahaha, props for using pics of Faye V., Nobo 8D

Entertaining report, but the sucking up got really old =[ That bit with the frosting last game was pretty funny, >_< but...time for a new series-long joke.

Don't have much to say that hasn't been said better already, but GJ, can't wait to see the next series. =]
#66 Vegita of Pooh[57887]
host86-63.iwbc.net
yeh, that last pic is cool, but FOR GOD SAKES why'd you leave it in bmp format??????? WHY!? You nut! convert in to jpeg, sheesh, that bmp is 600k alone! in jpeg it would be like 60k!!!
#67 ::nobody::[57888]
dt0f4n84.san.rr.com
the last pic should NOT be bitmap, b/c i made it a jpeg. oh well :P

DragonValgarv: YAY u recognised the chick! i was wondering if anyone would recognise her :D mmm...Faye V. mmmm... hehe

ciao!
Nobo
#68 <font color=yellow>Protophobic</font>[57892]
cm-24-161-42-125.nycap.rr.com
<font color=yellow>This isnt even close to a nine. That's an insult.
#69 mrman4[57900]
242820hfc23.tampabay.rr.com
where did you get that picture at the end with the girl?
website link please!
#70 BackStabingLiar[57905]
63.239.42.130
fatty i cant wait for the next BR
#71 Dr.Zchivago[57907]
proxy1-external.bremtn1.wa.home.com
I enjoyed almost all of this BR.
I found the commentary better than before, but yes, it detracts from some of the game details.
I was surprised with the lack of HTML in this report.

This is really a 'slightly better than decent' report, but a pretty funny read for knowing all involved. =)

-Dr.Z
#72 [57909]
csdi2-proxy.support.compaq.com
Wow 70+ Already.

Probe: I love you 2.

Everyone else who thought the writing sucked: Well for one I want to do it so that isn't changing, two this is my first time doing it and I have learned a lot. Look for the Pillars vs Tillerman commentary to have a lot more detail and comments on strategy.

Everyone who thought it was good: Thanks a lot everyone! I am glad you enjoyed it. Mark4 is awesome, and his micro was amazing. I have talked to Tillerman and Pillars both of them are excited are actually looking forward to it.

Fox^1
#73 T_Mac[57913]
24.68.28.220.on.wave.home.com
The game was ok, but the writing was kinda crusty.
8
#74 Heartcutter[57916]
activer-2.ussntc.savvis.net
Great report! As for me jumping into this fray, I'll give it a pass for now. I haven't been online playing for far too long. My SC skills are ass right now.

I'd have to start training like a madman in order to put up a good showing. That alone would take me a month.

So no for now, but when 1.08 finally hits, I'll be back in the saddle again. Oh, and thanks to all those that wanted me in on the next one. When I get up to snuff, I will be back.

-HC
#75 :PPPPP[57917]
ci991207-b.edgewd1.ky.home.com
:P :P :P


P.S: :P
#76 Krebster[57928]
spider-wl061.proxy.aol.com
Hmmmmm, not sure what i think, well except for the anime chick. =]

I'm not a big fan of commentary, maybe you could hire dennis miller to spice it up a bit like MNF. ;)
#77 Napoleic[57936]
24.66.179.206.bc.wave.home.com
HC back when 1.08 comes?

Hurry your asses up Blizz! Cripes this is IMPT!
#78 [57956]
rliv236.infocom.com
Okay, the most basic rule of commentating is that you have one person describing the action and the other 2 people analyzing what is happening.

One commentator should be slightly oafish and stupid providing humor, the other should be halfway intelligent making competent analyzation of what the players are doing. Using this formula helps give the report a healthy balance of strategy, humor, and informaton for the reader.

If you don't follow this formula and just have anyone say whatever, then you don't have a consistent flow in your report. It becomes choppy, uneven, and annoying... kind of like this one... :(

The only reason that I'm giving this report a 7 is because I really enjoyed watching two really good and well known players duke it out. If it weren't for that factor, this report would be silver in my book.

That's my honest opinion, take it how you will.

Cheers,
Dref
#79 SlingsNArrows[57998]
bgm-24-95-150-230.stny.rr.com
no way in hell this should be a silver, but ratings are silly anyways. :o)
#80 !Psi-Channeler~(Jag'dlittlepill)[58052]
186.norfolk-03-04rs16rt.va.dial-access.att.net
Good BR =) needed more details though.
GG

Sup den, even tho im like 30 posts below u

#81 faye_v[58127]
24.65.81.66.on.wave.home.com
for people who are interested
those last two pics were from faye valentine from the anime cowboy bebop !!
the best anime there ever was and ever will be
so go out and buy it now ! 10 x better than sc/bw
#82 shockwave[58197]
exchange1.sensable.com
This was mentioned on my forum a while ago:

There are some battle reports that are only good because of the writing and entertainment value. You take a mediocre set of players and you add some humor and good captions and eye candy and the report is readable because it's entertaining.

There are other classes of battle reports that people actually would read to get *strategy*. For those, it is less important that you're entertaining, and more important that you convey the BR in a thorough and understandable manner.

I think the Mark4/Tiller series should have clearly been the latter. People read these reports because they rarely get to see a player like Tiller in action. I think the commentary and all that were entertaining, but it was more distracting in this report than helpful. I would have loved to see long, detailed reports for these series so that the readers could have learned something about Tiller and Mark4's strats. If I want entertainment, I'll read any of the other numerous reports here between unknowns that have the fancy graphics and animations and humor.

K I hope that wasn't too harsh. I think the report was done very well, I just thought the style of the report wasn't the best option given that I was itching to learn more about how Tiller plays. I found myself just peering at the minimap and screenshots trying to intuit what was going on so I could extrapolate my own strategies from it, and all but ignoring the text.
#83 [58238]
csdi2-proxy.support.compaq.com
Your critisim is mature, that's all we ask for when anybody comments. Do not fret though, the next time we do this the commentary will have just as many details and comments on strategy as normal reports do. You can take that to the bank.

Fox^1
#84 [58529]
dsl-gte-jr13661-1.linkline.com
Nice report, too bad Mark didn't win. Nice anime chick.
#85 m1ndcontrol[58852]
wpad.cyberglobe.net
Good BR, i love this trio they make me love mark4 without even knowing him, hehe. I enjoyed it, good work.
#86 FoXx=)[59488]
234.mercerville-21-22rs.nj.dial-access.att.net
uhh u got killed
fox^1 we all know im the real FOX!!
#87 UKNOWWHOIAMHAWK[61761]
proxy1-external.poco1.bc.home.com
GOD DAMN U.. on other note pillars is 0-2 with me and tiller is 0-3 now so pillars is better.. and i heard kains name mentioned in the br about "godly" micro.. no he had godly macro not micro also im 3-1 with him =)
#88 cruch masster[89312]
209.146.77.133
dorks
#89 jermwurm[105929]
wn125.wythenet.com
how the fuck are you able to smoke the eggs if theres no ice in the octopus's fucking bookbag? GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!
#90 m_a_n_d_r_a_k_e[140330]
customer-148-223-137-226.uninet.net.mx
stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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