| #1 Casper...[54658] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-03-891.look.ca |
| First is mine. Enjoy. |
| #2 ~13~ShAdOwDrAc[54659] |
| spider-tr044.proxy.aol.com |
| Second is the best, so ha! |
#3  [54662] |
| inehou-pxy04.compaq.com |
Great repot Casper! Although the pics were really... well they weren't normal looking, the writing on this was spectacular. I am surprised that POA want for a fast tech to carriers. Why didn't he just hold with goons, get his natural and then get carriers? Well I guess I didn't watch the game so how could I know!?
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Fox^1 |
| #4 Casper...[54672] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-03-702.look.ca |
POA is extremely unfamiliar with goon/reaver and goon/templar, especially vs Terran. His favoured approach is a VERY quick expansion to another main, and it had been established in a previous match that Activus! owned this particular tactic with excellent vulture micro.
As for the pics, I just messed with 'em for artistic effect. Dynamic resizing within the browser. |
| #5 Talon[54683] |
| cx110054-a.pwy1.sdca.home.com |
| strecthed out pictures ... er ... yeah .... |
| #6 ']['amaraw[54685] |
| cisco8-s0.pacific.net.sg |
Great report writer.
Great players.
equates to AWESOME REPORT.
Keep it up. |
| #7 SluggyTheZealot[54686] |
| AC810958.ipt.aol.com |
| gosu terrin scouting. again proving that to win you need to be prepared for carriers, not react to them as it was a very close call. |
| #8 CynicalMagician[54688] |
| px1cl.gv.wave.shaw.ca |
I'm not sure if I liked the funky pics, but as fox said, the writing was great. It sounded a lot like something off the battle.net match summaries, and the players were of that calibre too. Nice job.
-CM |
| #9 Bane[54690] |
| fcs01asm.asm.bellsouth.net |
I'm really not in a position to judge this... I guess it was just me but a lot of the pics didn't show up. Nice writing though.
Bane |
| #10 Casper...[54691] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-03-702.look.ca |
Well noted Cynical :)
I was going for a much more clinical feel this game as compared to the more relaxed, humorous approach I took to my last report.
Some people may prefer one or the other, but as a writer I have to stay fresh. That explains the completely revised layout as well. |
| #11 Casper...[54692] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-03-702.look.ca |
| Bane: 2.1 megs. You'll probably need to refresh a couple times and right click-show picture to get em all. |
| #12 Wisest~Yoda[54695] |
| pm3-1-175.boscobel.mwt.net |
poa = newb :D
hehe and hes too scared to 1v1 me
he hides behind his lil "i dont play newbs"
later
yoda |
| #13 ProtectorofAiur[54696] |
| 217.colorado-springs-06-07rs.co.dial-access.att.net |
hey Casper great report, i knew it would be good =]
you should come back to BW, i'm tiring of D2 and am gonna start playing BW again, and i want to get owned pvz :D
Activus is a really really good Terran, probably the best i've seen. this was my first time doing this unorthodox strategy, and i think i could have won, had i expanded/contained more with the ground troops i had rather than sending them after his expansions. it was definitely winnable, but i was playign as if he didn't have 3 so i went for the kill not knowing about his other bases. i still stand by my early expand strategy, it continues to win =] i want to play activus pvt some more tho, should be fun.
cas btw, its not that i'm unfamiliar with goon/reaver or goon/templar, but i dunno i don't find it a powerful strategy vs metal, i think reavers are too risky to go to as a default strat, as most terrans can prepare well for that event. |
| #14 Wisest~Yoda[54705] |
| pm3-1-175.boscobel.mwt.net |
| see there he goes again, ignoring the fact that yoda > poa |
| #15 Casper...[54708] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-03-702.look.ca |
By the numbers I find that a goon rush/2 expansions/dt is probably the most secure opening vs terran. He sees goons, goes tanks which are wiped when he tankpushes by the dt's. However, it's only really good 2-3 times vs a player as they will tend to adapt to incorporate a fast vessel, then you need to diversify your strategy once again.
I dunno, I just don't like fast 2nd nexus. I feel that protoss should either goon rush with superfast range or reaver rush then fork to something involving templar or massive leg zealots following at least 2 expansions. It's just that without some form of control over the terran you are basically allowing them free movement over the map, which I feel is an error given the power of vulture/tank. I've lost a million goons to vulture tank, and it hurts.
As a change of pace, I've experimented with a dbl nexus, 1 cannon, then scout rush. Basically you beat back his initial push, then take everything you can while going all zealots once he adapts. This means having the tech infrastructure in place, namely building a nexus, citadel, nexus, forge, nexus, archives and upgrading your boys. The goal is to kill peons/make him turret his base(s), and that gives you the opening you need to make that aggressive powerup. Of course if he builds a fairly early acad and scans you ... |
| #16 SlingsNArrows[54709] |
| bgm-24-95-150-230.stny.rr.com |
Ok, one question (To make my ingnorance clear). Why is that gateway/tech building positioning wrong?
The way casper explains things in this and the high level of play made this a fantastic report. The writing could've gone totally on its own, the pics just kicked things up a notch. 9.5 and I'd want to say 10 if the pics weren't "panoramic" style. |
| #17 SlingsNArrows[54710] |
| bgm-24-95-150-230.stny.rr.com |
| I love typoes :o) |
#18  [54711] |
| dt031n5e.tampabay.rr.com |
since when is poa good
im disgusted
then again you said nice things about me in your BR of me so you have no perspective |
| #19 Casper...[54712] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-03-702.look.ca |
Slings:
You want to design a base with troop flow and defense in mind. Hopefully nothing ever enters your base but if it does, you want to make it difficult for the enemy to maneuver around. So, at 9 on temple, you should build you first pylon either touching the top-right corner of you nexus or 1 square off and build gates either in circular patterns around it (top, right, bottom with a 2nd pylon touching your first) or in an extended line along your assim (i.e. stretching in the opposite direction relative to the way your minerals line up). The reason you put tech under your nexus is to make landing more difficult in the even of a drop, and so that if he does drop, he drops right on top of your 1 cannon 2 goons there. This is written with vultures specifically in mind. The reason I dislike stretching gates in lines is because it tends to hinder troop flow as they exit buildings, and makes it harder to react in a timely fashion to mutas, drops, etc. |
#20  [54715] |
| 1Cust135.tnt3.rdu1.da.uu.net |
One gate to carriers....
Right then. The report was Very Nicely formatted, and I for one loved the pics. The writing...godly. I'm torn between a nine and a ten. Good thing the rating system works on averages. What genius designed it that way? |
#21  [54718] |
| 208.196.35.239 |
Awesome report on a cool game with unique tactics. This was definitely not your run of the mill TvP.
I didn't like the stretch effect in some of the pics, but that may just be personal preference and I refuse to dock your rating for something so trivial when I enjoyed this report so much.
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Cheers,
Dref |
| #22 Casper...[54721] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-03-702.look.ca |
| I feel the love. Makes me all warm 'n fuzzy 'n shit. |
| #23 Flisk[54726] |
| CWIP-T-007-p-219-99.tmns.net.au |
OMFGAY this report OWNED.
Feel the love even more baby! |
| #24 Sandman_[666][54730] |
| bhd6-s31.mtl.colba.net |
That carier rush sux if u let a terran expand ALL OVER THE PLACE HE SHOULDA had better recon from the start....
Nachos Rule!!!! |
| #25 Activus[54732] |
| sdn-ar-003nyrochP014.dialsprint.net |
| Cas, I love you man :-) |
| #26 ~LifeIsPeachy~[54733] |
| 207-172-102-161.s542.tnt2.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com |
Casper... how can you think that reaver/goon or templar/goon can hold its own in mid-game? Or do you just mean as an opening? As I learned from Bold, goons simply cannot stand up to tank/vulture even with full observer support. And reavers are very risky, a couple of missle turrets can badly discourage any drop and leave you open to a 3fac push. IMO only zealots and/or carriers, always with templar and light goon support, can hold a terran late game. But I agree vulture micro owns early expand :)
Good report as always, nice to see good NH peeps holding against advanced players. |
| #27 CraZy[54734] |
| 24.65.122.105.sk.wave.home.com |
| Gah why didn't you try that vs me poa :[ |
| #28 Activus[54735] |
| sdn-ar-003nyrochP014.dialsprint.net |
Actually NTT and I never developed this together, I watched him and played vs him and then gave my own flavor to metal.
Acty |
| #29 Casper...[54738] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-04-402.look.ca |
I like reaver rushing because it forces the Terran to respond to the threat, and renders his vultures damn near useless as raiders due to obs being so near. Also, after forcing him to turret and leave at least 1 tank, his starport will be VERY slow, since he will almost certainly expand once he addresses the threat. And if he's only left 1 tank, he WILL be losing a dozen workers. End of story. Having Robo allows for flexibility on defense and offense; I can expand to an island really early, and take my natural without fear. Then pump out mixed ground and progress to templar/leg zealots while continuing to terrorize with speed upgraded shuttles and expanding once more when I see that he takes his natural. Note that I only do this strat if I can chase off the scouting peon with a probe in which case I would almost certainly cancel the 2nd gate and go reavers.
As for goon/temp -- goon/reaver; I agree with the analysis vs Tank/vult. Hell, tank/vult owns protoss ground PERIOD. Both techniques are purely metagame plays for when you must adopt a reactive posture in order to acquire the resource advantage midgame i.e. "Terran is taking his mineral only, I can't touch him, gotta expand twice but not get my army completely waxed doing it". It's the play to make sure that you at least come out even in any exchanges which MAY be initiated by Terran while powering to massive leg zealots, which are the preferred finisher vs Terran. Remember, Templar are your artillery. Zealots are your strike troops. And goons are your open ground flanking mobile dominators. Spread the puppies into 3 groups of 8 and close on the tanks ideally on 3 fronts preferably after landing storms/scarabs in transit.
The middle of temple is just built for flanking actions. And once you start closing, feed the tanks with goons like you would reavers with marines.
Basically remember that the farther out he comes, the more vulnerable he becomes to flanking actions and the ensuing chaotic overcorrections which tanks tend to perform when flanked.
Just remember, there are alot of things Protoss can do to Terran early on. Hide the citadel and archives in a corner of the map and dt jump after 2 goons, which is basically a 4 unit triple expand. Build the archives in plain sight and go reavers out of some corner of the map. Goon rush without upgrades, double expand and scatter your tech among your bases to confuse him while flanking with dt and leg-zealots as he advances. Double nexus with 2 cannons and hope he doesn't just fly by with vultures. You get the idea.
And when in doubt just straight up goon rush, incorporate reavers or templar, attempt to hold your bases, and make him earn his win the hard way. |
| #30 [54740] |
| 208.196.35.239 |
Wow Cas, you're starting to sound like Shock... good analysis though. You should name it, "<i>How protoss can open 10 different ways to terran's 1 or 2</i>"
Dref |
| #31 SlingsNArrows[54743] |
| bgm-24-95-150-230.stny.rr.com |
| Casper is my hero :o| so much SC knowledge. |
| #32 ProtectorofAiur[54745] |
| 161.colorado-springs-05-10rs.co.dial-access.att.net |
cas i almost beat your goon/reaver with straight tanks, but you adapted to speedy zeal/temps at just the right time and i got lazy on my pushes. so casper knows about just how long goon/reaver is effective, and he switches at the right time. with the strat i use, i expand get 4-5 gates going and THEN the terran takes his natural and then speed zeal/goon just continually harass that expand's cc/workers while i expand more and more . . .
this was the first time i did this 1 gate to carrier thing, it is a viable strat, but my inexperience with it showed, because now i know what i would have done. after destroying the tech/cc in his main i would'nt have gone so hard after all his other bases. i would have kept my carriers/goon/zlots in the middle and then taken like 3 more bases right then instead of just my natural, and then gotten templar tech and fought it out from there. from the scores i lost the game cuz of resources. |
| #33 ProtectorofAiur[54748] |
| 161.colorado-springs-05-10rs.co.dial-access.att.net |
| btw unretire already Casper NOW! |
| #34 BW-sux[54749] |
| spider-we041.proxy.aol.com |
There needs to be more strat heave reports nowadays. But of course, they must feature somewhat good players.
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BW-sux |
| #35 Marie47[54751] |
| 1Cust160.tnt10.minneapolis.mn.da.uu.net |
| Cute report, Casper! Nice job :D |
| #36 wangsonn[54754] |
| acs00gsp.gsp.bellsouth.net |
| Good job. |
| #37 {88}hawk[54757] |
| 209.128.34.3 |
" POA is a renowned excellent player, one of nohunters tops!"
"POA's not quite adapted too goon/reaver, so he tried an unbelivable strat, 1 gate to carrier! "
O H M Y G O D Y OU STUPID NEWBIES
HOLY CRAP
YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN MAYNARD PLAY TVP HAVE YOU. NO.
1 GATE TO CARRIERS ROFLMAO. PUSH WIHT LIKE 2 TANKS AND 6 VULTS AND THEY'RE OWNED.
god.
oh my god you guys thing you're unbelivable gods but then you actually play someone of decent proportions and you get smacked down.
you're up there comtenplating all the gosu stuff too do, maybe its gosu but it needs a gosu player to execute it?
ya.
God pisses me off you think your soo good.
Go to clan -x17 and play testie or some 88 or ds.
HAVE FUN THX GW.
Nice report though
-Hawk |
| #38 exactly[54766] |
| spider-th032.proxy.aol.com |
| My thoughts exactly, man. |
| #39 CraZy[54769] |
| 24.65.122.105.sk.wave.home.com |
Acty is god foo. I'd like to see your toss beat him hawk :P
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| #40 CraZy[54770] |
| 24.65.122.105.sk.wave.home.com |
| poa = newb tho ^^ |
| #41 Bane[54774] |
| adsl-61-48-144.atl.bellsouth.net |
Hawk, if u 1v1 POA I'll br it =]
Bane |
| #42 CraZy[54775] |
| 24.65.122.105.sk.wave.home.com |
| gah hawk should play acty :[ |
| #43 Sonneillon[54777] |
| tsdlsk01d01010111.sk.sympatico.ca |
D-Hawk or {4 breasts squished together clan}hawk, everyone here knows that you need to get your head de-fucked. So, you can shut about now 'cause you are a retard. It doesn't get any simpler than that. You have no girlfriend, you get some kind of ego-high from playing a game, and that was your real picture that was posted. =]
And call me a newbie, and please tell me you can kick my ass in StarCraft. I really do care. Yep.
Bring on the flames {4 breasts squished together clan}Hawk, let out all that inner pain on me.
-Sonny Bouy |
| #44 Fractal_Wave[54779] |
| 24.64.214.148.bc.wave.home.com |
Best report I've read in ages. Very, very, very tight.
All the best,
Fractal_Wave |
| #45 ghostridah[54790] |
| cache-2.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net |
| "nh's best" i saw that part and stoped reading |
| #46 ProtectorofAiur[54791] |
| 220.colorado-springs-03-04rs.co.dial-access.att.net |
hawk is a good player indeed, but man that attitude is messed up =
btw the one time hawk and i played pvt, i won |
| #47 Activus[54795] |
| sdn-ar-004nyrochP175.dialsprint.net |
Hawk is decent to me :-)
Oh well, yaya. |
| #48 The Asylum[54797] |
| ce-stjh-01-01-e0.cbl.nf.net |
| Sonn has no creativity. He just copy and pasted that from his comment on Dref's report :p |
| #49 [LoR]-Napoleic[54800] |
| 24.66.179.206.bc.wave.home.com |
The key to pvt is early game pressure. Whether you go robo or templar tech is rather irrelevant, both ways have their advantages and disadvantages. The most important thing is to hit him fast with a mix of goons/zeals and force him to tank push out of his main. Even though you can't face him head to head, you can slow him down and expand. Fast carriers seemed to work, but I find it rather risky, no offense ;)
I'd go for early game pressure/containment, 2-3 expansions, then mass out of 8 gates with the obvious speedy zeals, (heavily upgraded)
Of course either way, the more skilled player is going to win, so there :)
btw, sv's beat down templay tech, as you all know, so I wonder why more terrans don't get them much faster... oh well. BTW, reaver rush is highly vulnerable to a little prudent defense. IE 1/3 turrets, 1 tank, and depot wallin around mins. It's almost impossible to get around that with a reaver drop. Even one accompanied by probes/zealots. And the shitty thing with reavers is it's very hard to attack the natural because scarabs can't traverse high ground, whereas storm can. I prefer mass ground containment, move to templar after he begins to push out, so you can get madzeals and storm, and then a little later go to robo tech for shuttles and obs, and do a few psi raids behind his push on his mins. You just have to be careful not to get sucked into fighting it out with a push, or your army may be beat down and your main will follow soon.
Anyways, I pretty much suck at pvt, but after learning from my myriad mistakes ;), those things I can say with confidence. The only thing I really hate is unexpected bcs, or ghosts. Ghosts can ruin my day in a hurry :(
the assholes...
Well I hope that helps you (and me ;) all out.
Good report too, it was definately solid. |
| #50 ProtectorofAiur[54825] |
| 220.colorado-springs-03-04rs.co.dial-access.att.net |
| yes i realize 1 gate to carriers is not a solid strat, but since i knew activus was all about going hard metal i figured why not try something new. and the strat itself did not fail, my middle game continuation of it did. had i kept my carriers/ground troops in the middle and expanded more myself i would have had a better chance, not saying that i woulda won, cuz acty owns :P |
| #51 Krebster[54828] |
| spider-tl081.proxy.aol.com |
Hawk leaves for no apparent reason when hes loosing and claims he would have won.
And he pretends to be better than he realy is.
Oh yeah he's a really bitter person, also very cocky.
Other than that he's pretty nice/cool. |
| #52 CyanBloodbane[54834] |
| spider-ti053.proxy.aol.com |
Ya i got owned by Activus too, after an almost game winning Dt drop. Unfortunately, Activus is skilled and micromanaged enoughto get a turret up. dayammmmm. And i know that 12 RAX thing too, he used that on me, though i killed aronud 40 mnm with storm, he eentually overpowered me as he expanded, so here what i wanna say
Good job and Activus! is THE best terran expander i know, hes agressive and it pays of. Now i want a rematch ;) |
| #53 CyanBloodbane aka soulsplitter'[54836] |
| spider-ti053.proxy.aol.com |
| Once again hawk stfu. Wow you watched osme people paly, ooooo wow, Soso is my fucking cousin, it doesnt make me any good. You have a meesed up attitude, and you make shit up too. Perhaps if you could get your head out of your a$$, you would notice yourself. PO played good, trust me Activus! is really good, better the heartcutter at least. |
| #54 1st~Kakaru[54853] |
| ujamaa-2-g3d-cluster.Stanford.EDU |
| A little hello from california , where i havent played bw in now 3 weeks :) |
| #55 [LoR]-Napoleic[54862] |
| 24.66.179.206.bc.wave.home.com |
By no means do I criticise your handling of the game POA, and I think the fast carriers was ingenius, just too risky for my blood. I don't have the talent or the guts to pull that shit off ;)
You played very well to be sure, and I agree with your analysis of where you went wrong. Just one thing confuses me: How did his gols own your goons so hardcore? I have a hard time believing that in even numbers, even with gosu micro and superiour upgrades that those 6 gols would remain. Normally goons > gols, so that whole deal bothered me... |
| #56 [54864] |
| dt031n5e.tampabay.rr.com |
| hawke shut the fuck up, really |
| #57 The-Relic[54878] |
| cacheflow4.sasknet.sk.ca |
| That was a good read, lately this site has been pumping out BR,s, not shitty ones, but god damned kick ass ones, makes me want to learn html, well, at leats i know how to center a title, wait, god dammit i forget...well back to counter strike i guess :P |
| #58 Casper...[54891] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-04-1162.look.ca |
| It was 8 2/0 gols vs 8 0/0/0 goons. Activus made a nice formation before attacking, and shift-qued the attacks, while POA attempted to dance in the latter part of the battle which gave Activus like 2 seconds worth of free shots on the dancing goons. |
| #59 Activus[54914] |
| sdn-ar-004nyrochP175.dialsprint.net |
| Casper is king of Battlereporters, hands down. |
| #60 ProtectorofAiur[54916] |
| coswebproxy1.core.hp.com |
| yeah i took the gol vs goon matchup too lightly, and the upgrades helped the gols hold their own . . . i was playing the whole late-early and middle game as if i had already lost. see, i didn't know acty for the instinctual player he is, and i didn't think he would guess carrier . . . that one wraith delayed my attack 2 minutes till i got obs/sairs and i felt i had lost right there, i was extremely surprised that i was able to clear his main and then only after this happened did i mentally get back in it to be honest. but expanding then was too late :P |
| #61 CraZy[54931] |
| 24.65.122.105.sk.wave.home.com |
| poa > crazy 2-1 thx |
| #62 Dr.Zchivago[54942] |
| box2.trfb.navy.mil |
Sweet report.
I woulda liked some upgrade info and maybe a mini map thrown in to better show exp, but oh well.
Good report.
-Dr.Z |
| #63 Casper...[55000] |
| on-tor-blr-a58-01-68.look.ca |
| 63rd comment for a new personal high. |
| #64 ninjacal[55003] |
| ns1.atc.fhda.edu |
| I was suprised that POA lost. A friend of mine who's really good at toss would usually go search for my terran expansions and take them out.(Since terran only has missile to defend air only) He use ground troops only to defend his base from tank push. Do you guys think it's a good stradegy? Also, I think POA could have won if he didn't let terran spread out. I mean any race who gets to spread out all over the map would have a tactic advantage, right? |
| #65 CraZy[55008] |
| 24.65.122.105.sk.wave.home.com |
| casp unretire now |
| #66 Bold[55024] |
| proxy3.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com |
When did you get good a tvp casp?? =]] nice report... 1 gate carrier owns all... end of story...
note: in the above statement the word "all" does not include acticus! but does include everyone else who ever played BW |
| #67 exactly[55063] |
| PNBFB102-18.splitrock.net |
| And Krebster turns down games from random newbies, just as good, man, just as good. |
| #68 mofo[55227] |
| c1-eac18.eacanada.com |
Holy crap,
I've enjoyed the comments section more that the report (which rocked, btw).
mmm... Theorycraft...
I'll have to try out some of casper's tactics. That is, if i can stop playing D2...
just... one... more... level... |
| #69 Activus[55228] |
| sdn-ar-002nyrochP141.dialsprint.net |
| Comment 69!!! You all are now mine!! |
| #70 ProtectorofAiur[55314] |
| coswebproxy1.core.hp.com |
| if i can't beat him in the actual game, i'll beat him in the highest comment :P die acty 70 > 69 |
| #71 jeezumcrow[55347] |
| svweba03.statestreet.com |
| great game, thought POA just might be able to pull off the carrier strategy :) |
| #72 CraZy[55354] |
| 24.65.122.105.sk.wave.home.com |
| CASP UNRETIRE YOU GOD OF BATTLEREPORTs YOU MOFO :[ |
| #73 Casper...[55364] |
| on-tor-unv-ap3-48-13.look.ca |
| YRM is the god of battlereports. I'm more like the pimp of battlereports. |
| #74 ProtectorofAiur[55372] |
| coswebproxy1.core.hp.com |
| unretire plz casper, you can get some free wins from crazy :D |
| #75 Activus[55645] |
| sdn-ar-001nyrochP301.dialsprint.net |
I don't know YRM, so I like you better.
BYE
|
| #76 JawaAvenger[55679] |
| d6-22.hntnny.optonline.net |
77 > All
(That means 78 isn't better, mofo) |
| #77 WSSO[56061] |
| hsa036.pool004.at101.earthlink.net |
| POA didnt do so bad since he had 1/2 of Activus! resources and yet almost had the same number of units. NJ and better luck next time. |
| #78 Activus[56160] |
| d185d175d.rochester.rr.com |
| I am drunnk. Bye |
| #79 DS-SlayeR[56833] |
| cr284156-a.poco1.bc.wave.home.com |
| Hawk when u say maynard play tvp dont b/c he sux at it.. NTT is best tvp yet an insainly quick reaver drop and conceil the plan u can win but its too risky.. only if their beside u.. Just go turbo goons with reavs and then ht and exp just before u get ht... |
| #80 DS-SlayeR[56834] |
| cr284156-a.poco1.bc.wave.home.com |
| wTF CAN I FIND HAWKS PIC... I WANNA C THAT HEH |
| #81 mattkid[73367] |
| 00-60-97-d5-1d-d0.bconnected.net |
nice report
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| #82 casper...[150318] |
| CPE0010b50f508e-CM00e06f16610c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com |
so fucking wordy
was i on crack? |
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